corrie3232

first off, like i said earlier, i was running it @ 2 ohms, so i already lose 900 potential watts right off the bat. second of all, i have a voltage meter, and am aware when i am clipping. i was running no where near what that amp was capable of producing, even at 2 ohms. it had nothing to do with how big of an amp it was. i could run a saz 3500d on stock electrical, but theres no way id ever use even half of it. i could just keep the gain knob down. so im not trying to hate, but your statement is kind of ignorant. I must be blind as heck, this guy has a bxi 2600 amp. hooked up to a stock electrical with only one battery, no in line fuse what-so-ever!!!, (250 amp recommended) playing his music hard for ten minutes,at 2 ohms. any he calls my statement ignorant??? how many amps/voltage u think he is pulling, even at 2 ohms(1200-1400wrms) it's quite a bit, .. i call this user error, that's why we all upgrade to multiple batteries, fuses, multiple runs of 1/0 wire and high output alternators. so we don't fry our amps. i don't care what kind of amp he has, it could be Sundown, but on what he's got. it to would be on borrowed time.

Actually there are more people than you think that run that much power on stock electrical and dont know why they do but I even did at once (which wasnt smart of me but nothing happened besides amps getting hot every now and then). Yeah buddy quality plays a large part in the role (look at how many hifonics amps crap out on people when it isnt the user's fault), you can try and beef up sorry quality amps all day but there own track records proves them wrong. Were not saying they wont work, Ive heard hifonics amps and at one time thought they were great till I seen the failure rate. Be smart about your logics (they would be good budget amps if they knew how to last), I would pick Audioque amps over these since at least they can last. It was part user error rushing to put it in and the amp itself (enough said). In life the quality of anything has to do with how long it last and that is common sense (not the price of something or the name brand but the QUALITY of the product or service shows how it will endure over time). Now Jay ,i would love to see a chart of how many amps Hifonics sold and how many that has taken a dump, how can u say that,( High failure rate) not knowing how many was sold. well when u out sale others 10 - to- one i guess u will have some bad amps. i wonder what big name brand amps keeps DBr backed up with repairs. I've been to other forums and the hifonics owners has nothing but praise to say about thier amps. that's funny when other name brand amps takes a dump, u say it's user error. show me amps with Zero failure rate.and what defines a good quailty amp. Longivity?? Power? or user know how?? I people would follow the manufacturs specs , amps wouldn't blow as often.

the quaility of the amp has nothing to do with it taking a dump, he's runing a 2200+ wrms on a stock electrical. How many guys u know does that, i'm just surprised it lasted that long.

MB Quart dsc 2000d $308 sonicelectonix

GO TO TERMPRO.COM, they have a pinned topic about it, thats why i say do your homework. IN 1984 Wayne Harris was the first to use stiffening caps in a spl setup. in the Terminator so for him caps work. Go to pasmag website and they also have a review on a stinger cap. The rockford t15kw uses a lot of caps, they also have a article in Car Audio Mag explaining how the caps work for them. like i said do your homework, and stop beliving hear say. Car sound mag did a review on a Alumapro cap 5 aka The Cap with nothing but good reviews, Here we have three articles showing that caps work, but i've found no articles proving that they don't. Go figure

try HI-PerformanceExchange inc.com

you all are so misinformed on caps, do your research on caps and batterys

mb quart dsc2000d

MB Quart DSC4125 $180 sonicelctronix

ummm the Sundown 2000 cost $600 + each right???

jay-cee is the spoke person for Sundown? he asked for a dealer that has refurb fosgate amps not a plug for sundown!!!

isn't that's what the foil on the back does, reflects the sound.

why does it need to be repaired, " remember it has more quailty parts" than the AQ. That alone should tell u that any amp can break, reguarless of what's name is on it. It's funny how when a Sundown amp breaks, it's user error, but when any other brand amp breaks, it's the manufactors problem. Get a new amp, and run it within specs, not at .5 ohms like other people do, and then they wonder why thier amp just blew up.

well they are the same price..... so thats the whole delema... is which one is better for that price. refurbished saz3000 or a New AQ 3500. Does any one have any pros or cons of each one? so far i have the pro of sundown using more quality parts. anything else? question? how do u know exactly what parts both amps use, or are you going by here-say. and i would get a brand new amp over any used amp, reguardless . until someone shows me pictures of the different parts and can prove it, i'll settle for the new amp. People always say, (this amp has better quailty parts) lol oh really

did u play with the bass boast yet, it's there for a reason

if anything it may help on the sq

Man thats gansta (wake up wire )

I would go Sundown SAZ-3500D, FTW! How much is it? they were on pre-sale for like 800 ish. as for now you have to contract a rep and ask. http://www.db-r.com/sell/store2/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_67_69_97 and http://www.db-r.com/sell/store2/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_67_68&products_id=227 nahh bro? they're $1,075 now and the AQ3500 is @550, almost 2 to 1 ratio there, u can do the math, and look at the reviews Jacob of sundown did and you will see how much the power diff is. the sundown put out more power, but cost a lil more. Now for guys on a budget, we would get the Aq, but if you have , about 500 extra dollars that u don't need, get the Sundowm. Don't get me wrong both are great amps. the Sundown even better, but the price is what's gets everybody. And i like how Jacob compares his amps (think he's a lil bias towards his amps) since he owns the joint!! i wanna see some price comparisons, what's out there that can compare with Aq3500 price wise? hell if i had the money i would get the Sundown, but i'm poor

get what u can afford