im almost ashamed sometimes to say i worked at audio express!!!! they dont take any time with the new guys to teach them properly ive fixed some god awfull installs from other locations even. i dont know why anyone would take the amount of time that was spent on those boxes and essentially let something leave that is substandard at best and i cant belive the installer took any pride in it. anyhow im done ranting, just hurts when im lumped in with some of the wire bitters I used to work with and in some managers cases for. i never allowed anything to leave my bay (that i knew about) that if anyone took it apart they would look and shake there head. and i take no hard feelings at any of the comments about the store i probably have made worse ones. just wanted to say i guess it wasnt me