Billy Jack

What other amps share these boards? Flat line, Audio Legion, maybe ampere just curious. I know there zenon amps and that's a good thing.

I have always been a Alpine fan myself or clarion but now a days seems like Pioneer, JVC, and Kenwood all make decent head units. Honestly just pick the one you like best that has the options you like and if you plan to buy subs or build a complete system you always wanna have 3 sets of RCA's and 4 volt or higher pre-outs are always good for getting the most from your amp.

Glad ya'll back!

Honestly if I was building a sq system with that much space constraints I would use one of Memphis or JL's flat subs and some micro zed amps. Nice 4 channel for a 2 way front stage and a small mono amp for the sub or you could get a 5 channel and do the whole system with one amp but personally I like the looks of 2 amps over one if their gonna be seen. And now a days with all the great oem integration not much use in buying a head unit unless you just want more features. As for mids highs I have always been partial to morel, JL, Infinity kappa's, and focal. Any one of those in a proper install should sound pristine if set up properly.

Honestly don't think you have to worry. But didn't you buy these as a set? That could be a problem if you only sent just the tweeter back. Or have you spoke to them and that's what they told you to do?

You could get a soundqubed HD310 for around that kind of money and those subs hammer but you would need more then 600watts to realize their true potential. But didn't you say you where making 1152@2ohm? That would make it hum. And I hate to agree with M5 but the SSA subs are really good to to me they have a more sq sound then the soundqubed.

Have them turn it into a level 5 hybrid it will be thunderous then.

Want hurt a thing not enough juice. It just barely moves the cone in one direction. I have never had a problem doing it.

Get yourself a 9 volt battery and touch the speaker wire to it and it will only move one way. Makes it real easy to see which way the cone is going.

Yea no doudt. I have seen the sales sheets for the zenon factory where 80% of this Korean subs and amps are made and it's appalling what some of these dealers charge us for it. Like the big 12k amps where $450 a piece with a minimum order of 30 and there what $2650 when they hit the Amarican shore. And that includes freight shipping their only other cost is tax and duty once it reaches the port and what ever it cost to in grave their logo's and numbers on it. And the subs where even cheaper the big triple stacked 80lbs woofers where $200 a pop. They had crates of tweeters you could buy by the pound. And the mids where practically nothing to like a few dollars. We should all get together and do a group buy of 5k's for $175 a piece and get a awesome deal. I would be using 5k amps on my tweets and mids then lol.

No sonic and ssa are probably the best 2 places you can deal with. My nephew wired a hifonics brz2400 down to a .25ohm and burnt it up and they shipped him a brand new one so I was impressed they would warranty something that had clearly been abused and fried like that. But they do sell refurbished items but they list them as so. Now if they have a product sent back that's not been used they may test it and if it's ok they might sell it but I doudt they would try to pass off a refurb as new. Just from my experience I would say your good to go no worries.

I wouldn't worry about them sending you the same tweeter back heck they only pay pennies on the dollar to build them they ain't worried about the cost. Didn't you say they where alpine s series alpine is usually a pretty reputable company now some of these smaller internet places are the ones you gotta watch. But if you got it at a dealer can't they just take care of it for you?

I have used car subs in the house. I put a set of cerwin vega 12's in 2 big boxes and they sounded great in the house. I also played my car system in the house in a sealed box and you couldn't even hear the W6's in the room but in the other end of the house it was shaking and rattling everything violently thought the dishes where gonna break. Lol

Yea that is weird mine is louder when I cover my ear like laying my head on a pillow. No noise at all is when it's the worst.

Yea tinnitus sucks I have it from years of construction, systems, and gun fire. Ain't a day goes by I don't hear ringing in my ears so best get used to it if your gonna play with systems all your life.

Why does M5 say the SMD dyno isn't accurate, just curious can someone explain this. The thing looks ok to me for judging one amp from another, or checking a amp after a re-wire, or upgrade. Not trying to start a argument or anything I just don't understand his logic behind this.

That would also be a good way to see if you have any frequency cancelation, which I doudt you do, but never hurts to check. If your loosing certain frequency's when both speakers are playing, you know you have a problem. Out of the probably 20+ systems I have had, I only ever noticed it once, and it was plain as day, one side sounded fine then sure enough as soon as I played both, I lost the higher frequency's. Little bit of time alignment took care of it.

Dude was giving me bad rep for being nice and saying I liked installs or ssa products so heck yes I'm gonna give it right back to him. Go look for yourself you will see. And to be fair I just hadn't commented on anything of his and he was still running his ?icksucker about me so yea I'm gonna do to him what he was already doing to me. Go and find one post where I have had anything but nice things to say about anyone or anything except this ahole you want find any.

Ow trust me I tried that. If you will remember correctly I wasn't even in this conversation until he brought up my name and claimed I was giving him bad rep. Funny thing is I do but you can only give 20 a day and he is getting 30-40 a day so seems I'm not the only one who doesn't like his attitude.

Trust me man you ain't gonna get no help from Shawn. And have you checked all your head unit settings if so sounds like a bad speaker and or crossover. If their willing to send you a new one I would give that a go and if that doesn't help its one more thing you can rule out. Buying high dollar equipment to test cheap blown speakers ain't gonna help you.

What are you running in that M5 a house stereo? You got 5.1 Dolby surround in your Saab?

So you think your stereo sounds better out of phase with some of your speakers playing backwards. So would you really take a wall of subs and just have some pushing in and others pushing out at the same time. No wonder you think NVX is the stuff lol noob.

I know what phase is smartass I'm just saying in a car audio environment I don't see how running all your speakers out of phase is going to help anything. I'm almost positive he is getting no cancelation from speakers that are at different distances from his ears how could he.

Can't see how reversing the polarity and running the speaker backwards is gonna help the sound in a small car.