Florida_Audio

ok, cause alot of products like speakers list max and RMS. but i see you only mentioned amps? maybe because the amp is what powers everything else, and the true number of watts is most important from the amp? So, would you guys say that amp kit is good enough? Speakers are 110 RMS each, speaker wire is 16 gauge

it does also say the RMS per channels and such. what brands would you suggest? thanks for pointing that out

ok thanks. theres only 2 local shops that have similar prices. both are around $200 to $240 to install 2 component speakers, a 4 channel amp, and the stereo. but best buy is $289 for these. one of those local shops tried to tell me all JBL brand items saying they are the best and all they carry in stock. I told them i wanted to buy my own brands and not be limited to those. They also said i should just upgrade to a good JBL subwoofer for best performance increase to stock system. and then later upgrade rest. And they wanted $400 for sub and installation. And i asked about sound deadener, and they said thats useless. These 3 things made my not want to go to this company. They only do audio equipment and have been in business over 20 years. but still, these sound like uneducated statements? Like subwoofer only covers a tiny range of sound, right? i want clarity and details. bass can come later Im considering best buy, even though its well..... best buy.... ugh.... turn off. but they offer a lifetime warranty for some things that may go wrong due to their install. and theres best buys all over, not just one shop, like the local shop. What is your guys opinion on best buy to have it installed? it seems like it really depends on the person who will be doing the installation, not really based on best buy, but based on the person doing the work? Should i risk it? What place is in Naples , Fl, that you have seen, the ones ive found seemed a bit sketchy to me? One place wanted $700 bucks to install, when the other 2 wanted around $200. Not gonna pay $700, sorry, way too much

i dont have any equipment to make the rings. wondering if you can suggest some rings for 6.5 inch speakers that are good enough, even though they are premade?

wow honestly thank you so much for that info! i thought speaker baffles looked like this, like just a cup or something , but what you are showing looks like something else? i thought these were speaker baffles? http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IBEtbKcg9eS/p_696B050330/Boom-Mat-6-1-2-Speaker-Baffles-Regular-3-depth.html but u are saying to get something like these? (bezel rings?) http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_95248_Audiopipe-RING-6.5GR.html sorry for the links, but i dont think model number would help for those. whats the difference between bezel rings and baffles? yours look like bezel rings from what ive seen online? i read you should seal the MDF material to make water proof like you said. i am in florida and its pretty humid almost all the time, so i guess thats definitely needed? so, for the sound deadening, ive read you need to do it on both sides of door panel? inside door, and behind the inside. but you also need to clean the inside out with some alcohol first? and sound deadener showdown says to only cover 25% of door. is that for all brands of sound deadening, or just his brand?

wow thanks. ill give him a call when i can. appreciate it !

thanks. what type of speaker wire would i need then? and what do i base the amperage on? the amount from my amp only?

ok thanks. so what baffles would you suggest for my speakers i listed above, if you could please suggest some. and any special way to use the baffle or just put the speakers into it? and what brand deadening would u suggest, or any should be good? and around how much should i be looking to spend on a good amount of sound deadening?

i dont think ill get speaker baffles, because i heard they can hurt the sound a bit? and sound deadening seems expensive, i was thinking i can do it later? around how much would it cost to buy enough sound deadening for just the front doors? is that the only area i should put it?

ok thanks, i guess i will just not hook up the rear speakers to my new head unit. by box you mean the subwoofer? i would probably put it in the trunk, but i honestly have not done much research on the subwoofer yet, because i dont plan on getting on until a few months from now. and when i do look, ill want the cheapest stuff that produces decent quality. id prob look to spend around $100 for the sub and its box? if thats reasonable? the headunit i am getting from alpine, seems to have ALOT of great options to adjust EQ for speakers and subwoofer, that seems really nice to adjust everything. and for where the front speakers will go, i assumed i would just remove where the old speakers were and place the new speakers there, and where the old tweeters were. it looks like my car has some openings above the door handle by the front window, where there can be tweeters installed. where or how else would i install these items? im not sure i have other options? any insight is appreciated. once again, thank you!

i guess i dont really need the rear speakers? i dont plan on getting aftermarket speakers in the rear. i was just wondering if the rear speakers would still work, and/or sound okay with the rest of the setup? im not sure how i should deal with the rear speakers? i heard i dont really need to upgrade them. but not sure if that means i should still try and have them hooked up to play some sound. what do you mean by an enclosure space i would like to use? do you mean, like where do i want to place the subwoofer and amplifier? for the links heres the model number and description of items i want to purchase, let me know if you would suggest something else or any comments on them? i have a 2013 hyundai elantra coupe by the way. Hifonics Zeus ZRX1000.4 - 1000W 4-Channel Class A/B Zeus Series Car Amplifier Alpine SPR-60C 6.5" 2-Way Type-R Series Component Car Audio Speaker System alpine cde 163bt ( not sure if the alpine cde 164bt is any better or different? ) i would like the bridge 2 of the channels on the amp to power a subwoofer later on. and the subwoofer i have no clue yet, i will get one in a few months, but for now i think the amp, front speakers, and stereo should be fine? the amp will just be a low budget one with decent quality, and does not need to be crazy thumping and such.

thanks for any help guys, i plan on asking many questions i plan on doing my own research, reading articles and such, and learning terms. and then asking to clarify anything after ive read stuff, and for your guys opinions on certain components i already made a thread asking for help. i got one response so far but welcome any help at all, thanks!

ur comment is concerning what do u mean by rethink the links and im not ready to shop yet? are these not compatible? will they not work well? i plan on running the front components with the 4 channel amp, and the subwoofer with the same amp. but can i then run the rear factory speakers off the head unit? will this work well? Please let me know, i plan on purchasing these very soon, thank you!

ok thanks. hmmm so if i do only want front and subwoofer. does the subwoofer output have a specific type of output? or can i just get any head unit with 2 preamp outputs? ill probably be getting the subwoofer and box later on. budget reasons for now. but i hope the speakers should be fine for bit of bass, with the amp and EQ how much should the wiring materials cost? i think ive looked them up before, and its around $40 for amp wiring kit, and around $30 for speaker wires to amp?

wow thanks for clear explanation! makes sense, so i do need 2 outputs on my head unit, but you are saying that not many head units have a sub pre out and a front pre out? these are the two i would need, sub pre out and front pre out? i dont need the rear pre out? or would a head unit, with front and rear pre outs, be able to be used for front and sub? wondering if the rear pre out is compatible with a subwoofer? edit: i also am looking at this EQ http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6655_Clarion-EQS746.html looks like it can be used if i get a head unit with only 2 RCA outputs, front and rear? but would the head unit with 3 RCA outputs be easier than installing this EQ? but... would this EQ offer better quality sound and adjustments and be a good upgrade? and this product is a line driver and an EQ, but also seems to have all the outputs needed for front rear and subwoofer? http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_18601_Hifonics-HFEQ.html ugh.... so lost now, whats the difference between these? and why would someone use these? i do plan on getting an aftermarket head unit, 2 front component speakers, and an amp. and possibly a cheap subwoofer. wondering if either of those 2 items i posted above are useful and why? thanks again!

i want to have good quality sound. loud enough to hear it while driving on the highway with windows down and be happy. but not so loud that its pointless, and too loud. i like clarity. and the bass doesnt have to be booming too loud. i just want the subwoofer to produce bass to i can listen to an overall decent sound so it takes up the lower end of frequency. clean crisp quality bass, nothing overpowering. for space, i i have the whole trunk i can use if needed, i guess, but id dont want to spend too much on the bass, just something "good enough" should be fine to produce okay bass. thank you

ok thanks. what do you mean by goals and space?

i cant figure out how to copy and past this quote to add it to the post i just made? but, im on west coast of florida. Ft myers, Naples, Cape Coral area.

all the local shops that ive called have similar pricing. the shop im speaking about here is priced as 65 to 85 for components amp is 85 head unit is 50 to 65 so $200 to $235 for these total. thats around 55 to 60 bucks an hour if it is 4 hours. i guess maybe that is a good price? its just sort of depressing thinking about how much that all adds compared to the amount i am paying for the parts. the install price, and price of the hardware are pretty close lol.

located in florida. im wondering if any users here are in florida and nearby maybe can help me out, and i can pay discounted fee for labor :] also all the local shops want to charge quite alot to install these things. then again this guy said it would take around 4 hours to install 2 component speakers in the front, the head unit, and the amp for the speakers. seems like a bit longer than it should take? would be nice ok thanks. what do you mean by application specifics? maybe i can elaborate on it?

Im in florida. i have a 2013 hyundai elantra coupe and am looking to upgrade my sound system. its all stock. was thingking about getting just 2 front component speakers and a new stereo. hopefully this would help improve sound alot? the stock audio is complete shit sadly. so later i would like to get 2 rear coaxial speakers, an amp for the 4 speakers, and possibly a tiny subwoofer. the subwoofer would be my last purchase if i even get one. so what component speakers and stereo would u guys suggest me? im looking for cheaper options and options that allow me to upgrade later on. id assume i only need 4 outputs on stereo? im a total noob at this, so any help is nice. thanks. these are what i have in mind for now. let me know if u suggest something else or if these are good? im willing to spend up to around $120 for 2 front speakers and i around $100 for stereo. looking for most bang for the buck. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pVbdqhtcdpI/p_105KWR910B/JVC-KW-R910BT.html?tp=5684 or maybe this one http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Kl0JpXYMDbL/p_113DPX301U/Kenwood-DPX301U.html?tp=5684 these speakers http://www.crutchfield.com/p_500SPS610C/Alpine-SPS-610C.html?tp=106 cheaper on amazon by alot http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-SPS-610C-Component-Type-S-Speaker/dp/B004THAWHG or these http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KFCP709/Kenwood-KFC-P709PS.html?tp=64033&l=Q& also cheaper on amazon by alot http://www.amazon.com/Kenwood-Kfc-P709Ps-6-5-Inch-Performance-Component/dp/B0037PH2CY both speakers can be found for a shit ton cheaper on amazon, which i also posted links to the alpines seem nice, except that some people say the tweeters are too high pitched for them? and the kenwood are nice because i think they can fit in my front and rear doors. so wondering if its a good idea to allow for the same speakers in front as back, so as not to mix them up? also id be getting some sound deadener mats installed into the front door panels. anything else i missed or you would suggest? also to get these installed the local shops want to charge quite alot... ive heard that people on this forum may be kind enough to help out if they live near by? :} thanks alot!

thanks. i know you say professional help. but i dont want to risk leaving certain decisions up to them. like i feel like they may sometimes give bad advice or suggest something i dont really need, just so they can charge a bit more. also i would like to make sure i understand this as much as possible before going ahead, which i thank you for helping :] yeah speaker baffles are pretty cheap :] hmmm but also heard they can hurt sound quality because they block the back of the speaker for air flow or whatever? and you said to make sure im happy with what i choose. i mean i hope i am. its really hard, if not impossible to really pick out speakers without listening to them? just by reading other peoples reviews of the speakers and what they like or dislike is all im really able to do? and look at the frequency range. not much else to make sure i would like them?

ok thanks alot! once again appreciate all this help. if my sound system comes out bad, i blame you... just kidding :] hmmmm i thought speaker baffles can help with sound quality and protecting the speakers?

sadly i dont really trust myself to do much of these installs. dont want to break something or plug in wrong things. and i do not have any power tools or soldering iron. although i could buy these. but i dont want to risk breaking something and the time it will take to fix it myself. as much sound deadening as i can afford? wow, i thought u only need like one sheet of it behind the door? and should i also place some minor amount of sound deadener in the rear of car, if i dont initially put new speakers in the rear? and would layers of it be better for the front door? how much around would it cost to do it a decent amount? 35 bucks for 8 sq ft : http://www.soundqubed.com/Q-MAT-Speaker-Kit_p_215.html and would i benefit from speaker bezels? or would they not be needed if i get speaker baffles? http://www.amazon.com/RING-6-5BZ-Speaker-Recess-MOUNTING-SPACER/dp/B00K5Q9D7U edit: wow..... just checked out some quotes to install sound deadener, i didnt even bother to ask my local shop for a quote before because i thought it was an easy thing to install... looks expensive... but it seems some places might offer to do it for free or at a large discount if you are already paying for other items to be installed at the same time. so maybe i will wait to get it installed.... but i would appreciate any info about it, so i know for the future, thanks! now i see why u commented about, just get my stuff installed and worry about sound deadener later... lol my bad.

thanks. i do like to read, as long as i can understand most of what im reading the speakers say to use 4 ohms? id assume setting amp to 2 ohms would be bad for them? but also why is it now +/- 25, before it was +/- 50? also, if im having a local shop help put speakers in, shouldnt i ask to put baffles and or sound deanening in as well at the same time, so as to make the job easier, since they are already in the door panel and have the speakers out and such?