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haha thanks man, yeah, I will! But there is a lot more other prizes that go with it, for example, paid hotel, air travel, food, publicity in magazines, websites, etc.. Once you make top 16, you get the celebrity status, but in the gaming world of course. A lot of money can be made if you get there though, for sure, they will begin to pay you to play in their tournaments, free gifts, you get the picture lol Oh, and everything 1st class

bad move IMHO. How big is that trunk anyways? why are you set dead on a 18 inside of a trunk? Not downing your choice, just interested in why you decided to go that route?

Nice build. Its spring now...

Duran: Is your vehicle posted anywhere? Never seen it before, just curious, with you having a n3 and all, would like to see what you decided to do with it, and with whatever else you may have. That is of course if you don't mind.

So I'm assuming from your statement that this isn't true, or not always true?

Ok, so the tittle may be a little confusing. Sorry about that. But what I am trying to get a answer for is to know whether or not, 1 watt, equals 1 watt? For example, lets say one company claims 1000 watts rms @ 1 ohm. And some other company claims the exact same thing. Now if we set these two amps up to a controlled vehicle/setup, why would one seem louder, or just plain oh better than the other? Obviously the main possiblity would be because someone is not providing that 1000 watts, but lets say we testing both amps the exact same way, with sophisticated equipment and techniques, to find out that they are putting out exactly 1000 watts. Then what could be the reason? The reason I ask because I see all the time that some amp pricing are wayyy more then others, offering the exact same power, if not less. I can see maybe the material costing, maybe wanting more profiting, paying for the name in other words, IDK So again, I ask, is there a quality difference in the watts that different companies may or may not offer within their amplifiers? If any one cares, my personal experience with this. I had a 18" btl, no extra batt, stock alt, 4gauge wiring, same box, same vehicle, exact same everything. I began with a PA 3000bd, which claims 2300 watts rms @ 1ohm. Then moved on to a Arc Audio SE 2150 that rates 600 watts @ 2ohms. I payed 300$ for the PA, I think they retail for 450ish, (IDK) and then I payed 300 for the AA as well, which retails at 1000$ So why would the Arc Audio cost over twice as much, with less then half the power that PA offers? But yet, the AA sounded 5x's better then the PA, louder, cleaner, smoother, just better! There are many variables that I am unaware most likely, which is why I am asking for your opinion, I'm looking to learn something here

Well I wouldn't say that much, I may be getting this wrong, but from what others have posted so far, crappy parts can get you rated wattage as well. But its the longevity, quality, etc that makes the difference.

Gothcha, it just made me wonder what factors besides the obivous, would effect pricing, like, internally of the amp, what would change the price if V x A = W It seems that majority of it is the parts that it takes to create that equation is what greatly affects the pricing.

lmfao hahaha, Ok okay.... I promise

Thanks for the insight guys! thats exactly what I was looking for. So I guess the final answer is, yes, a watt is A watt, no matter what. In its most simpliest form, that is the direct answer, with no butts or ands. Now I feel I have the power to pass my new found knowledge with others if ever need be I feel smarter already

I DO want other people to comment. I want all of SSA members to comment back except for you. I don't like to single out people like, that, kuz then I only have that person and my opinion, I'm a very open minded person, which I am asking for answer from people on this forum (except for you). The way you reply can be founded very offensive. Just rather not have you respond thats all.

Hey ford, to be all honest man, can you leave this thread please, not tryna be a dick or anything, its just, I've read your past few post and well..... Lets just say I don't blame the guys over at SMD for banning you. Just my opinion. No body has complained about pricing, I already made it very clear that I wasn't questioning the price relating to warranty, names, middleman, or any of that. I was simply asking watt for watt question. I believe it is your fault for getting that other thread locked when I was very interested in seeing what more ppl were going to say, then you went to go run your mouth and complain ab what happen to you, WHO CARESSSSSS, go cry to someone that does care. Please. And I would gr8ly appreciate it if you didn't reply anything else on my thread. Back to topic I guess the 5 factors impious gave earlier is the answer to my direct question. I was just simply curious to why companies price may change watt for watt related.

So pricing amplifiers is like pricing gas? edit: lol just kidding, I know their not, and I'm just kidding.

Thanks for the replies, I was typing my respond the same time you guys were hehe ^^ ok, well yea, that does help me understand better. hmmmmmmm. Interesting. So what makes a quality amp, is how it performs under certain circumstances? Could that be a general but correct answer?

Yes, I understand that there is just wayy too many opinions on the subject, which is why I tried to make it as detailed as I can to get the answer I am looking for. Which it seems my assumption is right, if a controlled setup stays the same, and the only variable that changes is the amplifiers, then why would there be different outcomes? But still, why would a company charge so much more than others. If we were to use the analogy that a apple is a apple. The price would change on several factors, to name a few, maybe where the apple is from, how large is the apple, where is it shipping too, who is delivering the apple, etc... I'm not sure if I am making my question clear enough I guess I just don't see why would two separate companies charge two totally different prices, if the cheaper company is offering the exact same thing? Maybe customer service, maybe the name. But that is the obvious, so I just answered my own question... ughhhh, lol.

And thats what I was thinking... Hmmm, but surely, even if Power Acoustics was off or over rating their amps, it couldn't have been off by more than half??? At-least I wouldn't hope so, which is why I was confused to why the AA sounded better. Also after seeing high end amplifiers, like, what do they offer in their power if its all the same, assuming that a watt equals a watt, no matter what. Take arc audio's 4k amp for instances, why does it cost twice as much as a RF 4k? everybody knows that they both do their rated power, and then some. So why such a huge price difference if 4k watt is 4k watts? Maybe its the technology that it takes to get to that 4k, but even so, what spend so much resources on a product if you can get the exact same output with cheaper materials?

Goooood question. I haven't looked at drivers much, I wanted to figure out which route before I got caught up on drivers. Gotcha I know myself is so use to seeing everybody using tweeters, it almost makes you feel as though you need them as well. Anyways, keep us posted, I'm curious to see which route you go as I'm pretty sure a lot of us are or will be going through the same thought proccess.

Unfortunitely you are probably right. My alt that Robbie told me would 100% without a doubt fit didnt. We should be taking bets on when DC Power will be going out of business due to horrible customer service and a faulty expensive product. My bet is 6-10 months. x's 2...

If you wer going to go with the full range speaker and midbass route, which drivers would you be looking into? I'm interested in this kind of setup, seems simply but yet effective.

:Doh:Dam that suxxxxxx What happen? just bad measurements or something???

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Yeah, Definately more speakers to come, but the stock system will have to do for now... Atleast I won't be riding around with my ipod headphone anymore I will also be adding tint, don't know how dark at this point. The first few things to be done will be adding in a CAI and an exhaust to help out with my mpg. Thennnn the tint, alarm etc etc... Thanks for the compliments!!! I am picking it up today, I've been working my ass off to get this dam thing financed I have decent credit, but at only 21, not enough history. And after gathering ALLLLL the little documents and such, I will finally be picking it up after work!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

a newbie question, but I have to know. What is the name of those connectors that you used to connect the speaker wire to the terminals on the sub? I like that idea, it seems as though that method provides some advantages.

BTL will slap,hit,crunch,beat,bang,bump,thump,boom harder/louder then the W7 in a equally fixed environment. I think...