Sencheezy

I have used the driver and was not impressed. Maybe in a different install it could be better but I cant imagine it. well im not going to try to convince you. maybe unlikely expectations. Actually Steve he is not the only one to share the same thoughts. There are other forum members who would actually agree. All with the same complaints, mainly being that the zcon seems to play very heavy on the low end (<30hz) very aggresively. Since it has been broughten up, I will share some thoughts up to this point. The zcon is amazing, right, and it puts out tons of air. More than twice of my Icon, but yet, for some reason, the icon actually "felt" louder than my zcon. Hard to explain in text, but to try and better explain what I'm trying to say, I will use an example. My icon was able to flex my front doors noticably, and perform a 12oz can trick. Ok, but my zcon and flex the ISH out of my front doors along with everything else, but yet, to the ear, my icon was noticably louder. I know there are some people out there that would probably prefer this setup as they only care about the notes we can't hear (<27hz). But personaly, I'm not as such a huge fan. Now this is just an early assessment, and I will continue to try and tune and tweaks things around a little, to see if I can play at my personal liking.

idk if I should say this just yet, since I haven't metered it yet. But I will say this, I agree with you/ricki/liljestrend I'm going to try a few things out though, not sure when as its time consuming, but heres a list. change box with the Audible Customs box change box with Shizzzon box change ports move around all three boxes positioning If all thoese fail, then I will reomove the Arc Audio XEQ just as another variable, even though I used it at the last MECA I went to... Not really a sub for music and takes goobs of power to get loud. I tried to tell you Good luck though bro. Hopefully you can achieve what you want! thats a pretty false statement . im gonna have to step in here. the zcons sounds very good on music, ive had tons of compliments on how then sounded at shows doing demos. im no sq guy but i know when a sub sounds like poopoo on music. the zcon is not one of them. as for needing gobbs of power..... come on bro. have you seen my videos with the sae1200 before i got my DCs? dont mean to jack the thread but i dont want it going around that these are SPL only subs and cant play music. You are correct on all claims steve, and this is why I haven't publicly posted any of my "theories" as I haven't completed my trial 100% yet, and will take the above steps to try and correct this. I was simply posting back to edoube. sorry if it seemed misleading.

I definitely disagree and I have owned a ZCON. Got my 18" Z.3 today. By far the best looking sub I have seen. Not too many people going to like that comment Would you be willing to swap only the subs in that enclosure that was built for the zcon just for shits and giggles. oh wait, you can't because you got an 18"!!

idk if I should say this just yet, since I haven't metered it yet. But I will say this, I agree with you/ricki/liljestrend I'm going to try a few things out though, not sure when as its time consuming, but heres a list. change box with the Audible Customs box change box with Shizzzon box change ports move around all three boxes positioning If all thoese fail, then I will reomove the Arc Audio XEQ just as another variable, even though I used it at the last MECA I went to... Not really a sub for music and takes goobs of power to get loud. I tried to tell you Good luck though bro. Hopefully you can achieve what you want! Heres my theory, ok, so the zcon was designed for goobs of power right. This is not to say, that you need goobs of power, but perferably, thats what you want for this sub as it was designed for higher power. So maybe once that power is applied, then it will produce more bass at a higher level (obviously) as intended. Which could inheritely explain why my Icon was getting or (felt) much louder, because I was supplying the wattage it was designed for. But who knows, again, this is just my theory at this point until I can conduct futher experimenting. And I know you did.... Thanks anyways! The reason for me being hard headed, was because A: Seeing other members haveing success with it, grant they are offering that goobs of power, and B: I've owned a Btl and was applying the same wattage. This may not be a fair comparison, but with the ~the same wattage, ~same enclosure specs and ~vehcile, I honestly didn't expect such a drastic change/difference.

idk if I should say this just yet, since I haven't metered it yet. But I will say this, I agree with you/ricki/liljestrend I'm going to try a few things out though, not sure when as its time consuming, but heres a list. change box with the Audible Customs box change box with Shizzzon box change ports move around all three boxes positioning If all thoese fail, then I will reomove the Arc Audio XEQ just as another variable, even though I used it at the last MECA I went to...

We clamped power on the NS1 feeding the two Obsidian 12's. 4660 watts. 152.2 dB for now (using a CD instead of iPod). *Post made by OA on FB

Win willl you begin?

Like this? Sure, before my dick goes down there. Like this?

You should buy another and strap em

Like this?

so will the subs be covering this up once placed?

I know who NOT to tell secrets to next time!

You wouldn't happen to have a time on that would you?

I have the zcon 18 and a new recone ordered.. can't wait. You have no choice! But to wait

I'm no box designer, but yes, I would atleast at bar minimum double baffle and do some effective bracing.

Well what sub/amp/tune?

I use Titebond III And screws I'm not exactly sure on the screws, I just used wood screws though, full threaded, black ones, they worked pretty well. Also, very important to pre drill, with my experience MDF splits easily, fair warning lol. GL!

bwahahahhahaahah you ass I didn't post that vid yet because its not quite ready yet Should be ready by this weekend though

looking good

" Yeah man, he does over 200dbs daily"

whos the hot chick in number 2?

Looking good steve, keep it up!

Is this a show car? Or will you see the amp the entire driving experience? I believe it could be taken to a local paint shop though, shouldn't be anything difficult.