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140-150db

AHHH SHIIITTY!!! Damn sorry to hear/see that. Hope your ok the car and system mean nothing when it comes to life.

I have nothing really positive to say about the CDT's. Also "suffice" is rather personal, for me not even close but that means nothing for you. Understanding your expectations and goals would help. Also do realize that installation of the comp set will make a BIGGER difference than the set themselves.As for kick response, a 15" sub is NOT any slower than an 8" sub. There is no issue with "fast" notes on any sub (excluding ones designed like shit of course), just issues on shitty enclosures. Ahh cool so that solves one question as for kick response. I did plan on installing CDT 6.5 component sets. They come with the crossovers and tweets. I planned installing 2 sets in total which handle 160 RMS per crossover and speakers(640 rms total) according to CDT. So 6.5 in each door then all four tweets upfront or second set at B pillar.Goal is LOUD and clear, Clean and painful. Ground rumbling! I do plan on doing XS battery up front and one possibly two in the back, Big-3. I was going to do 2/0 SHCA power and ground throughout but would be cheaper to do 1/0 and Mechmann 270a. Pioneer HU 4volt. I have 25.5cuft to work with plus a spare tire well that I haven't measured as of yet. I also seem to be attracted to Fi audio but thats not 100% either. I listen to every type of music plus write some myself which makes it difficult for tuning but I mostly listen to Hip-Hop, Trip-Hop & Dubstep but also Listen to Drum and Bass, Punk, And Classical. I do a lot of my mastering/review through other sound sources ie. car, home not to mention studio. But all in all this is for my self. Not going to compete but I want a near competition capable setup. In my opinion SQ (clear and clean) with a SPL feel (ground shaking earthquake sensation). Is this what you're asking of me?

Very well said. Thank you! So you think it's an over kill doing 2/0?? I figured more the better but a penny saved it a penny earned. Whats your opinion on CDT audio for mids and highs? and would it suffice for a single Fi SP4-15 on about 2k? Also what type of music do you listen to? I'm curious on the kick response (drum and bass / jungle 160-180 bpm) on a 15"

No unfortunately not but now that you say it I do know the person I sold them to. but again that was 15+ years ago. I'll have to call him.

Nice, love the idea too

I understand, just analyzing before purchase still waiting on taxes and a few other things before I buy everything. Again I am looking for a good beginning, I understand there will be some tuning and possible rebuilding of boxes.

Again just asking questions. I find it better to talk about it before actually doing it, works out kinks before hand. And I thank you guys for your input, it is very well appreciated. This is why I came here first! Helps me see a bit further into the logics of it all.

True, just looking for input really. Its just a thought. But i'm looking at it like an EQ. to boost maybe 100 hz and 30 hz (thinking to myself or even thinking outside of the box) to use one sub to focus on a higher range of audio (Q) and the other focusing on the lower range (BL). so getting SQ sound with a SPL feel. Maybe i'm just trying to do what no one has done. i'm always trying to be different lol I'm not new to car audio but its been 18 years or so since I've dealt with it. Had a few friends do up their car which got me inspired to get back into in. my last setup I ran two US Acoustics amps I forget the model #'s now but they were dark grey with a red label I believe. They sounded great I ran two 12" Zeus sub's and pioneer mids and highs. I never entered comps or anything but that thing sounded pretty good. I built a 6th order box for the two 12's and everyone who heard it said it sounded loud and clear. Again it wasn't big power or a huge build but i'm looking for some bang in my SUV again. I miss it but this time will be much better and bigger. MUCH MORE! anywho so just trying to come up with a game plan which is slowly focusing in. just looking for some answers on some silly questions. I have built a few setups too. perhaps 7 in total. I'm not an installer by profession but as hobby. I have built houses and cabinets and furniture so box building is fun for me. thats why im looking into different ideas. I do all my own mechanics on my SUV within my means but i feel with time money and the right tools I could accomplish anything. so anywho.

Oh I for sure am using all OFC no CCA. Sorry for all my confusion but I think I understand what you're saying. And you are correct, I am looking for the upper range like a sealed box with a higher Q. But I guess what im saying is that I also like the lower tones as well. My original question should have been how can I achieve a full range of sound. LOL! I'm just looking to do a very clean sounding build with crazy monstrous bass that'll make soil your drawers a bit.

what would you guys suggest for midbass then? do you think I should go CDT audio for my mids and highs? I have a budget of $500 for all my mids and high crossovers included. Again I'm looking for a clean and loud setup. I'm not competing but would like it damn near that, loud and clear. I seem to be drawn to the SP4 for substage but thought of running a mixed set of Fi 12's using the Q and BL to (in my mind) resolve the higher notes of bass (Q series) and lower notes with the BL, so basically sub stage 25-150hz. Then with the CDT audio like 75-20khz. Right??? I'll be running Crescendo amps and will be upgrading the Alt, front battery and adding a rear battery as well. 2/0 shca throughout except for the 4 channel which will have 1/0 shca. Might even add a Epicenter to clean things up a bit, but that'll be after words. I also plan on doing secondskin through the SUV. I have plenty of room for a single 15 or 2-12's. Opinions, thoughts, ideas?

Nice!!!!

Thanks Guys!

More mid bass you say, very good! Do you feel CDT audio HD series 6.5 midbass woofers would suit me fine matched with a single SP415 thats powered by roughly 2250RMS probably closer to 2k at 1ohm. BC2000D should be good enough at 1 ohm then later I could get another SP4 and BC2000D link them at 4k@2ohm should sound great. But then the mid bass is what I worry about. I love bass but dont want to drown out all the mids and highs either. I think 170RMS per channel for the mids and highs should be enough to cover. Right???

Cool yeah I totally understand. It was just a thought that came to mind. I haven't really messed around with car audio in over 15 years and am going off what I remember. So that said I should just run an SP415 and be done with it I'll run a fairly nice front stage and perhaps the same in the back doors. Do you think the SP4 will have enough response for Drum and Bass or would you think it would be a bit slow and muddy???