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Don't even look at power ratings on tweeters. You will never, ever, put 200w to a tweeter. The lower you cross, the steeper the crossover slope needs to be or you'll greatly restrict power handling and thus output capabilities. Got a link or model number for the tweeters you are looking at?

Pinned it for you.

Well, JL's higher lines of amplifiers are custom designed by the guy responsible for the highly acclaimed PPI ProMos and Art series amplifiers, and have a lot of technology and useful features. Sundown's are fairly run of the mill but quality amplifiers from a buildhouse. Sundown's mono amps offer higher power output. JL's amps are higher priced. Sundown's CS is top notch....quick responses to emails and you can talk to the owner. JL has an extensive dealer network who can provide in-person hands-on support and troubleshooting in addition to email and phone support. If you have a problem with a JL amp under warranty, you can take the amp back and most dealers I've dealt with will slide you a new product over the counter that day rather than having to wait for shipping like you do with internet companies. It all comes down to your needs. In some respects, the JL is a better product. If you don't need those features, or those features aren't worth the additional cost to you, or you need more power output.....then the Sundown is a better product for you. You have to remember how many internet companies are a joke, or do sell products that are nothing special, and how many people on the forums are idiots. So telling someone that Brand X is highly rated on the internet isn't going to impress most people when they are selling products that are highly respected within the entire consumer electronics industry.

Decent amps don't have any headroom. An amplifier with headroom is indicative of an amplifier with a weak and poorly engineered power supply, unless it has a special gimmick in it like the RF T15KW. If the MBQ has the quality and features the owner needs, I'd take the higher power option every day of the week

The IMPRINT is good for someone who doesn't have the time or knowledge to properly tune a system. I personally would rather have something with more adjustability and functionality.

IMO save your $100, run one amp per coil and use a DMM to set the amps. I don't see the need to spend $100 on something you can do yourself for free......

You are really trying hard to avoid admitting Fatmat is an inferior product made with inferior material, aren't you? I would also recommend reconsidering the products offered by SDS. I would highly recommend Don's product offerings.

If you use them and like them, why are you asking us if they're crap?

Fatmat is asphalt. According to their website, they released a product called Mega Mat in 2009 which they claim is their first butyl product. There is a lot of confusion because FatMat used to claim it was butyl when it wasn't. After a lengthy debate on one of the forums, the owner agreed to remove the word "butyl" from the site. Last time I checked, he was still using it on his eBay auctions. He also stated that asphalt was a superior vibration damper in many ways, but chose not to elaborate further. I've yet to see anyone selling a butyl product say it was asphalt Company lying.....another great reason not to support FatMat

From Fatmat's website; That would indicate to me they are admitting the Fatmat deadener has nothing to do with butyl, as they are explicitly stating Mega Mat is their first butyl product.

what about these Would they be close i have a set in my car and they take a pounding. You will never find a tweeter that will handle an actual 300w.

I would start by checking the connections at the speaker to make sure the wire/etc isn't touching the door or basket. And sorry, but you're not going to get any sympathy from me. I've not had a radio in my car since May!

Fatmat is asphalt. According to their website, they released a product called Mega Mat in 2009 which they claim is their first butyl product.

I have a pair of Trio8's up in my closet.....haven't had a chance to play with them yet, but most people state they sound extremely similar with the SLS8's but with better high frequency extension. So which midbass to go with IMO depends on how high you need them to play. If you were able to cut them off around 250hz or so, the SLS8's would be cheaper. If you need them to extend higher, probably would be best to look at the Trio8's. The SB Acoustic 8's had also caught my eye, all of their drivers seem to measure pretty good. Vifa's new NE225W also looks intriguing, but I don't believe they've hit the streets yet For midrange, there's so many options it's hard to know where to even begin. It really depends on what range you want them to cover, IMO. Again the SB Acoustics 4" looks intriguing as their drivers all seem well engineered. Scanspeak just recently came out with the Discovery line which includes an affordably priced 4" midrange. Ofcourse the old standby's in smaller formats like the Vifa TG9. Zaph gave a glowing review of the Fountek FR88-EX. Have fun taming those reflections

They are good sounding affordable drivers that get very loud in a ported enclosure. Plan on using them ported, would not recommend them sealed. 1kw on a trio should be sufficient. I had ~500w on the 12" Dcon I played with, and that single 12" output way more bass than I'd ever need.

The amplifier is not the most important aspect. Select the amplifier last. Make a subwoofer selection first, then chose an amp to match the subwoofers you've selected. Purchasing an amplifier first will limit the subwoofers you can chose......this is not a smart way to go about things. You're doing things ass-backwards.

Load test the battery. If you can't do this yourself, most maintenance garages should be able to do it for you.

I would rather support Kinetik

As far as I know AGM's have acid (VRLA). Kinetics on the other hand have gel. And under heavy loads bubbles form. Gel is thick and it isn't good at "disposing" of the bubbles, further reducing the capacity of the battery. Now this shouldn't mean that gel batteries are bad. They are not ideal to use as started batteries. Common Specifications AGM Technology Kinetik High Current Power Cells

Ever heard of headroom?

You call me "so critical over nothing" yet ironically you're the one who ran to the internet to laugh at a guy for mispronouncing the name of a product. Because he's a competitor, he's supposed to be aware of every product available? He probably just competes in smaller shows where the lesser known brands aren't prominent. Stop being so critical over nothing.

I've never really understood why people think it's so funny when someone mispronounces the name of some small internet company they've never heard of before. I'm sure you've mispronounced names of companies, products and people you were unfamiliar with all throughout your life. I doubt those people ran off and made a post on an internet forum about it.

Several reasons. Many times they can be covered in gook which keeps from getting a solid connection. Some seatbelt bolts and seat bolts, while securely attached to the vehicle mechanically, don't have a great "electrical" connection to the rest of the vehicle. And depending upon how someone connects their terminal to the bolt, there may be very little contact area (if they install the terminal above carpet or padding, for example). The short of it is, the quality of the connection can be hit or miss....so why take the chance? Create your own ground somewhere that you know will be a solid connection and bypass the entire possibility of having an issue. You might not notice an issue (alt whine, etc) but that doesn't necessarily mean you have great ground.

Unfortunately "worth" is a matter of perspective. Amplifiers are not really that important in the grand scheme of things, so I personally look for the most affordable amp that has the features, quality and power that I'm looking for. DD normally doesn't fall within that criteria for me personally. Others however may feel they are well worth any premium paid compared to more affordable amplifiers.

Nice pricing Aaron. If someone is in need of quality bump on the cheap, these will definitely fill that need.