..sup 3stage.. mr.sundown.. sundownz... u kno me from trinituner as well.. no need for an intro.. now.. tell me something here i noticed someone said u shouldnt power up a class D amp with no subs connected as it will see infinite load.... buttttttttttt i`m sure you saw wen he said he tried it with the proper load dude.. this is only possible if the amp has that protection built in.. one of the brands i kno that does this is Zapco... is the saz3000d equiped with this protection mode.. ? another question.. these class D amps have 3 way or 4 way protection? wat are they? i kno 3stage is a very trust worthy person..if he says he has tried everything.. well its gotta be the amp