TwistedMind

its 10:30 at night on a saturday and im about to go work on it instead of going to the bar. Im going a bit different route than most, everyone seems to think a 6" aero port would be awsome, I happen to think two 3x5 external box ports would be pretty sweet ( and a hell of alot cheaper ) Im going to go put them together now, spent all day laying them out cutting pieces etc, I should be updating my threads with new pics later tonight, if everything goes as planned I will be installing it all tomorrow ( minus painting the box, I want to make sure it sounds good before I spend the time and money filling snading and painting it )

looks good bro, only thing I would change is the paint prep. but if you're happy thats all that matters

I should alo say, i probably won't do a fiberglass box again unless I absolutly have to. This was just a I want to be different option. I could have done the whole thing out of MDF and been done a week ago. I didnt really get the curves I was hoping for but I think it should be a pretty stout box when done. I just need to figure out my port or ports now :\ box is sitting at 2.314 cubes after displacments right now. NOT including port displacment because I have no idea how to fgure for ports.

Before pics system specs Alpine cda 9886 Head Unit Elemental designs nine.2 component amp elemental designs nine.1 Sub amp Polk momo mmc6500 Components Fi Q 12" with BP power sub woofer Knu Concepts 1/0 wire Stinger fuses Audio pipe fuse holder / distorbution blocks 120 SQ feet Raamatt All going into this

small update, im super itchy now, 3 solid hours of sanding and I havent even really made a dent, guess im going to go pick up some body filler tomorrow

I just did it for the sexy look alan head bolts have , but yes it also makes repeated removal a snap and you can do it 100 times in a day and never worry about the screws coming loose

they are just a 1" long threaded insert that will except 1/4 X 20 macine screws. you can pick them up at lowes in the bolts section or online from parts express. im not sure what the technical name is but if you go to lowes it wont help you anyways they are morons I had to spend 15 minutes looking in all the bolt / screw bins to find them

So it appears I may have made my box a touch to large and now im concerned about my sub hitting the back of my seat. I originally intended to recess the sub .75inches in a 1.5 inch thick ring. Not being familiar with the metric system I wasn't aware until about a hour ago of how big 27 mm Xmax was. Unless im mistaken that means the subs cone will have a hair over 2 inches of travel from peak to peak before getting into distortion. My concern lies with forward movement. I figured for .75 inches of forward movement, to find out now after the box is being constructed by me ( out of fiberglass ), that I didn't figure right. SO, how accurate is the 27mm measurment? Is it truely Xmax or is it actually Xlim?? Pic of my problem, sorry the pic is at a funk angle, the ring is touchig the seat ar the top of the ring/box. The ring is 16" and the sub is a 12" the pat that is touching is actually 2" above where the sub will be. Do you think I will be alright?

I just added a 3rd baffel and recessed the sub 1.5 inches the box will be ported eventually, I don't know the final volume yet its going to end up somewhere in the 2 - 2.5 range im hoping around 33 Hz

I have the same amp, and I have a Fi Q 12" with BP Power option, that amp is a pretty good power match to the Q line, I would recommend the BP power option with whatever size driver you want, build box to specs. 1200 Wrms is a bit much for a standard Q they are rated at 1000Wrms but with the BP option its a solid setup.

OKAY NDMstang65, do you think a half inch baffel will adequetly support the Q ? I can get a 1 inch recess if I have to im just concerned about the sub breaking the baffel. Scrapping the box isnt really an option as ive already got about 8 hours and 100 bucks into it.

could be a few things... whats that box like? and if i were you i would scratch that ED off the list of things to buy. care to say why you would scratch the nine.1 ? is it some logical reason or is it your biased dislike for the owner of the company? I will be the first to admit their speakers suck period, however they make solid amps that are under rated. Ive been running a nine.1 @ 1 ohm pushing 1200 Wrms for 3 years and not had a single problem with it. I am so satisfied with their amps that I just bought 2 more. a nine.2 and another nine.1, I gave my old nine.1 to my brother who is now running it at 1 ohm with 1200 wrms. Plus they have a 5 year warrenty, id love to see another company come close to that. In my experiance as long as you dont abuse the equipment IE running it below the rated ohm, they honor their warrenty hands down. All your out is shipping. I hear too much good stuff about the NINe.1 to scratch it off the list. my point exactly man, I see this on all the forums. Not bashing any particular brands but company X comes out wit a amp rated at 1kw @ 12 v and it produces 1.2KW @ 14 V everyone rides companys nuts eD produces solid amps for 5 years but in the case of edead V1 try to pass off asphalt based deadener as a cutting edge product. ( bad choice anyone will admit ) 5 years later they have completly scratched asphalt for butal based products and everyone still gives them crap as a company. Even though you will be hard pressed to find a BAD review for their subs or amps. Are they the best money can buy? Definatly not. Are they best in their price range? IMHO yes indeed. Id also like to add eD customer service is pretty damn good. Alex in particular. Props to you bro.

could be a few things... whats that box like? and if i were you i would scratch that ED off the list of things to buy. care to say why you would scratch the nine.1 ? is it some logical reason or is it your biased dislike for the owner of the company? I will be the first to admit their speakers suck period, however they make solid amps that are under rated. Ive been running a nine.1 @ 1 ohm pushing 1200 Wrms for 3 years and not had a single problem with it. I am so satisfied with their amps that I just bought 2 more. a nine.2 and another nine.1, I gave my old nine.1 to my brother who is now running it at 1 ohm with 1200 wrms. Plus they have a 5 year warrenty, id love to see another company come close to that. In my experiance as long as you dont abuse the equipment IE running it below the rated ohm, they honor their warrenty hands down. All your out is shipping.

well since I seemed to have no other choice I went ahead and sent you my order and money friday. I still think you should read www.paypalsucks.com And stop giving your money to those crooks.

Need to place a order but I refuse to use paypal, please pm me a phone number so I can give you my order and credit card info.

OKay, I listen to mostly top 40 ( pop ), and main stream country, and texas country I have alpine 9886 I have polk mmc 6500 on a ed nine.2 I have a nine.1 which wil power the sub 1200 Wrms @ 1 ohm @ 12.4V manuf spec so I need a D2 sub truck is covered with raamatt roff, floor, doors etc etc single 0/1 gauge run w/big 3 adding a second batt in the future and a 200 amp alt also in the future I can fit either a 12 or a 15 behind my truck seat. with no greater than a 8" mounting depth I have a total of 11 inches of depth so Im saving 3 " for the sub to breath I am looking for a exceptional performer in a ported enclosure I have 3 cubes of space readily available, if I get creative I can probably squeeze 4 , Maybe 5 if I go with fiberglass before bracing and port and sub displacments I want it to get loud but more importantly I want it to sound good, no muddy bass for me please. I have looked into all the DD line and all the FI lines, DD 3500 and FI Q and FI BL have caught my eye but im looking for more options I want to stay at or under 300 dollars I am heavily leaning towars the FI Q preferance is a 12 " woofer

Perhaps you didn't understand me. I refuse to use paypal period. I will not support a buisness that is run by a bunch of crooks. If paypal is your only option I guess I will shop elsewhere.

ah well that sucks. Fi here I come, sorry SSA but money is burning a hole in my pocket

is this special still going on? Looked in the store and I couldnt find it Also looked in the ICON area and it says all the 12"s are sold out any info appreciated. Please PM me. If its all still available ill be purchasing them friday 7/11/2008 package #2

More than likely you won't see anywhere near 8-10 db more from a ported enclosure unless you build a fart cannon. You'll likely see about 3 db with the tuning frequency you'll want to use. Also, if you use two 12's sealed in the same airspace as one 12 ported, the results will likely be about even. you sir are correct I completly misrepresented a comparrison I read on ROE The problem with going to two drivers is that I will also need to add a second amp and strap them or invest in a 3kd from SDA While I would love to do just that the fact that doing so would require me to spend another grand on my build instead of the 300ish I have remaining to finish it up. Maybe n the future when the economy improves and the dollar gains strength and im not spending 800 dollars a month on fuel that can happen but for right now I think one sub is the way to go, especially with monetary considerations included. Although I do appreciate the input. So this is where I am Icon 12 or Q 12 ??? Anyone live around Corpus Christi texas that has either so i can listen to them before buying?

I looked at DD because my friend swears by them, I want ported simply for the extra 8 - 10 db it can produce when done properly.

Just saying Hi, new here been running around on caraudio for a bit. anyways if youre local to corpus christi texas hit me up maybe we can go fishing or something