OfficerSteve

pics of the Nightshade? How do the 12's do sealed?

I'm not any different than anyone else. I buy the same things.

No offense, but you missed the point completely. For one, the jobs i work, i cant just drive down the street and get another one. Honestly, I wish i could. I wasn't laid off from McDonald's. Two, It's hardly a high dollar computer. Ancient by anyone's standards and about a third of the button's are missing. Even so, i still make a half decent effort to use proper punctuation and spelling.

Off topic. If i can quote Chuck Palahniuk for a second "Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy Sh*t we don't need." America, Generally speaking, has been on a spending binge for the last 15 - 20 years. "I cant afford it" is the 4 letter word of my generation. I welcome a recession with open arms. How else will people learn?

for the record, We don't need any of this stuff. Not in the survival sense anyway. It matters because at one time there were American's doing those jobs. Now American company's employ foreign workers just so they can compete with other company's that have already sold out... What a vicious cycle. If they refused, they would price themselfs out of there own market. I guess we (as consumers) are all a victim of our own design/greed. I am sure SUNDOWNZ would like nothing more than to sit here and tell me his Amp's and sub's were 100% made by the fine people of Greenbo, Alabama. Unfortunately for him, If he did, there would be no way he could compete with other company's that have there products made elsewhere. We, in turn, wouldn't buy as much of his products. Shame on us for always taking the easy way out, the cheapest way out. We have forced company's large and small to employ workers that cant even say the name of the products that they build, all because of our greed and corporate profit. I just refuse to do it. I will pay more for something built in the states. Somewhere, someone counts on me to buy a product he or she builds just to keep them employed. Now its my choice, I can get one built by George Walker, in Greenbo, AL or someone with a name i cant say... Ill take George.

Sundown is doing something similar to this. SAZ-South Korea. "New"SAE-China. Well, yea, but what amps are still truly completely manufactured in the U.S.A? Any? My point is to give customers the chance to own a made in the U.S.A line, Along with a entry level, and Standard line. We'll use Sundown for a basic example. SXX - American Made, Premium line, Using some of the top materials in the Industry. SAZ - South Korean, Standard line. SAE - Chinese, Value Line. In reality, your not going to sell the premium line in the same volume as the other 2, but it does give your customers the chance to choose. I dont think every American out there cares where a product was made, but i will safely assume that most hold products made in the U.S. with a higher regard than products manufactured elsewhere. Offer a product for every buyer, from budget minded to audiophile. Right now im working on three different projects, and in my personal vehicle, i was seriously considering going old school. Why? Because who offer's Quality like that anymore? I got a sinking feeling in my stomach when i saw the Made in China sticker on a friends new Kicker ZX amp. I remember thinking "Damn, when did that happen?" If this even possible, i have no clue, but i know nobody's really doing it. That was my point with the Fender example.

I agree. If "Made in the USA" is not a possibility, an American owned company with high standards for quality would chase a close second. Not related to Sundown, but i wish a company would offer an approach like Fender Guitars. They offer two lines, one standard foreign line, one premium American line, and gave the customer the chance to choose. I don't know how practical that actually is though.

Cant tell you how encouraging it is to be able to discuss this with the owner of the company. So thank you for your input. Its unfortunate that "Made in the USA" isn't valued more in todays society, but i commend you for you efforts.

I just support the U.S. Economy, and U.S. Jobs when possible. I was recently laid off when my job got shipped to a Chinese plant, me and couple hundred other hardworking Americans. I spent a year in South Korea on the DMZ with the Army. Good people over there. The fact that the SAZ's are built there isn't a turn-off. I absolutely will not buy Chinese manufactured products whenever humanly possible. Thats just me though. Not racism, just attempting to support other economy's, mainly our own, as much as possible.

Excuse my ignorance, but are these 8's, 10's or avail in different sizes?

I would like to know where the amps are made, China or American? Thanks