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As I've known a long time ago, this forum (SSA) is the best one to find answers about this subs that I'll buy till the end of the year. Subwoofers That I Like : JL Audio, Also Old RF's, JBL's... Some additional Infos : - The Car : Medium Hatchback (Fiat Grande Punto). - Musics : Listen to All kinds, but my Preference are House/Minimal (Deadmau5/ Robet Babicz), Rock/Metal (Led Zeppelin/ Disturbed). - Bass Preferences : Fast, Clean, Low Freqs Extension. - Subwoofer Amp : Phoenix Gold Xenon 600.1 (rated around 850Wrms). - Rest of Syst. : Take a Look on my Siganture. - I have quite enought room to most of these subwoofers (around 40/50L), as I'll use only one, but a smaller box would be better for me. So the "contest" is about these alternative subs : Sound Splinter : RL-i10. TC Sounds/ Audiopulse : Epic 10. Fi Audio : SSD10 + Copper Coil. RE Audio : SE10. Elemental Designs : 11Ov.2. Mach 5 Audio : IXL10.2.2 Incriminator Audio : 10 Lethal Injection. Phoenix Gold : Ti10. Phoenix Gold : RSdC 10. Wich should I choose (or would you choose)? (If there is a "why" please leave this answer too). Thanks!

I thought that... If I found a TC 1000 for a good price, I guess it would be the one. But I have a lot of time to think about these subs...let keep runnig it until people forget this topic... haha... Thanks!

I'll contact Mach 5 Audio to make some questions, and shipping rate... It way cheaper than Icon Anyway, let's keep the poll, I wanna see wich will win... Thanks! I have a feeling that you're going to be thrilled with which ever one you choose. Mark and Mark are EXCELLENT when it comes to CS, and the build quality is top notch! Hell, I'd just throw the two in a hat and take one at random. Haha...I hope so. The purpose of this topic and pool is to help me on my choice, cuz I know by reading reviews that all of these subs has some strenght and weakness, but all of them will make me happy by one way, plays hard with quality. I guess I will take the Mach 5 in the end, It's cheaper and now, they are working with a brazilian amps brand, called Soundigital. I Also found a TC Sounds dB 500 10". What about this one?

I'll contact Mach 5 Audio to make some questions, and shipping rate... It way cheaper than Icon Anyway, let's keep the poll, I wanna see wich will win... Thanks!

Should be Nice, but not what I'm looking for now... I want the 10's subwoofers, small boxes and great response in every kind of music. Thanks! He was just kidding, as the DDZ is a purpose built SPL sub and is meant to play one tone really loudly. Haha...thanks... I was really thinking that he was serious. There's always someone to make this kind of jokes...

Nice to know, another point to Icon. If you did not, can you vote please? Thanks!

Nice to know, nice to know that they have this concer about their consumers. Thanks!

Nice to know, nice to know that they have this concer about their consumers. Thanks!

Should be Nice, but not what I'm looking for now... I want the 10's subwoofers, small boxes and great response in every kind of music. Thanks!

Nice, I guess I'm with this "headdroom" idea because of my last subwoofer, that was rated for 400Wrms and I've pushed it into the 600Wrms and it pounded well, with a very good response...was a 12" sub.

Yeah, I'll contact Mach 5 to know something else about this sub, and ask how much would be shipping to Brazil, It propably will be very high rated.

Looks like people really love these... Thanks bro!

OK, I see what you mean...I know that is not correct about the "underpower", but was the way I found to tell that I'd like to have a headroom. My english is not very good anymore... The box will be well constructed, eith a 3/4" MDF layer and a gret finish...looking for a Performance Port (in case of a ported box)... I thinking on something between 25 to 35 Liters maximum, so the fine tuning had to be decided after the subwoofer acquire, actually all that I said about this box will be defined after the sub bought, because every sub works in a different way, so every sub needs a specific box project. To be more specific, a want small/medium box, did not decide yet about tipo, ported or sealed, but I use to build ported cuz of my taste. I will project it on WinISD, looking for a maximum delay of something about 20ms at the F3, and as flat as possible response. Maybe I could build even the factory recommended box. I guess the only thing I decide about the box until now, is that will be very well constructed, being strong and well finished. Thanks again!

Thanks man, there is no prob with the Icon, for now... But I'd like a sub that has a power handling around 600/800 Wrms maximum... To save some power as a "headroom". Don't like to underpower subwoofers, it's the same problem with Mach 5, but heard that they are nice even with 500Wrms. Thanks again!

The Budget is around 200,00 USD. Thanks man, I Forgot Icon... It was on my Original List... So Icon is added, and the List Now is : - SSA : Icon 10. - Fi Audio : SSD10 + Copper Coil. - Mach 5 Audio : IXL10.2.2. - Incriminator Audio : 10 Lethal Injection. - Phoenix Gold : RSdC 10.

Thanks man, Thats what I was expecting... I've read the ///M5's review about the IXL12.2.2, and If all that things are true, this sub will match my subwoofer taste. Also, I've read some nice reviews about the RSdC, and looks like people think they're very good even being a "cheap" subwoofer when compareted to other performers. As I have seen on the Pictures, the Fi Audio are quite beautiful and well ended subwoofer, being robust with that "heaviweight" apperance, but according to reviews that I've read, maybe it will be the worst between these four of your choice. Actually, I liked everyone, and everyone has a strength point and, starting by RSdC's, I would say that using it, I'd stay on PG's family with the hole system being PG, and its a great looking/performer and the cheapest between all these. When we talk about the SSD's, whoa, they are one of the most beautiful subs that I've seen last years (Looking to the cone, they remind me the 2003 RF Punch Series, like RF2210), have the nice options that we can choose, a relative good price, and well, these subs, by looking really make me confident about their perfomances. When we talk about the Incriminator, well, they surprised me according to reviews, cuz I really thought that they were really powerful, and did not make me confident about it's SQ purpose (I was wrong, They really are). And the Mach 5, this one has the most rude looking, and in fact this is a ugly sub, but looks like everyone enjoyed it's sound, with fast, clean, and powerful bass even when played with a half of power applied, what surprised me, cuz is a heavy cone sub, but for now, I'm not unconfident about it anymoreand I guess that for now will be me choice. I'm disappointed with eD 11Ov.2, I thought this one could be an acclaimed subwoofer, but none told me anything about it. It's a great looking sub, great parameters, great price (for only 75 an a Blowout selling from eD)...But, I don't know. Thanks bro!

Hi you all...This is my first Thread here. As I've known a long time ago, this forum (SSA) is the best one to find answers about this subs that I'll buy till the end of the year. Some needed info's that you should know to help me: - The Car : Medium Volume Hatchback. - Musics : Listen to All, Preference is House/Minimal (Deadmau5/ Robet Babicz), Rock/Metal (Led Zeppelin/ Disturbed) - Bass Preferences : Smooth, Fast, Clean, Low Freqs (Between 25-40Hz). - Subwoofer Amp : Phoenix Gold Xenon 600.1 (rated around 850Wrms). - Rest of Syst. : OEM CD matching Drive + Play (Harmann Kardon), 2 x Phoenix Gold M25 Bridged to Each Side of Phoenix Gold Ti6CompElite Components (CutOff around 70Hz). - Kind Of Sub Preferred : SQ subs with Hight Output for a Medium Power Syst, would be better if Power Handling around 600Wrms. (Due to Headroom of 250Wrms). - Reference Subwoofer (To compare to) : JL 10W6V2 (Pricy). So the "contest" is about these alternative subs : Sound Splinter : RL-i10. TC Sounds/ Audiopulse : Epic 10. Fi Audio : SSD10 + Copper Coil. RE Audio : SE10. Elemental Designs : 11Ov.2. Mach 5 Audio : IXL10.2.2 Incriminator Audio : 10 Lethal Injection. Phoenix Gold : Ti10. Phoenix Gold : RSdC 10. Almost All Of Them on the same Budget, around 200Usd. Thanks!

OK, thanks man! I tryed to Edit it today earlier, but I think I can't do it by myself anymore, so as you are the admin please close it for me, then I'll open a different one. Thanks!

Thanks for the Advice, I really did not notice anything about it before. I've seen that you're using Mach5 IXL sub, so what do you think about it?

Hi, I was buying a pair of KnuKonceptz Krystals, but a few days ago I heard something bad about them. someone told that Knus were made by the same manufacturer of Stingers, but was a kind of second line. Is that true? Are they any good? What would you recommend to me instead of them? Ps.:My last ones were Monster XLN301. Thanks!

So What Brand and Model Cable is everyone using?

On This budget, there