Second Skin Rep Jon

Definitely liking the entries from SSA!

Thank you to those who have already entered, we appreciate it. Keep those entries coming!

LOL, totally unfair!

I'd suggest taking a look at removing the mirrors and treating just them if that is truly the only thing rattling. I mean if everything else is solid, why spend the time, effort, and money treating something that isn't the issue? Two SDS Tiles and BOOM problem solved.

Personally, this is how I would approach it. Start with 25% coverage and see what the resonance level is at this point and bump the coverage up to a MAXIMUM of 50% if need be. I just recently tackled an AC unit and ended up going with 30%-35% panel coverage, took some time and effort but well worth it. Add the MLV inside the door to help block the outside noise as well as combat the rear projected sound waves. It may be difficult to get the MLV in there, but well worth it. Sealing off the door cavity with sheet metal/perf metal/plexi... I'm a fan of doing this because it always seems to improve the SQ and bass response of the door speakers. Of course always cover the openings in a way that is reversible. That's my opinion.

The team as it stands is small, so doing this contest will give everyone across the country a fair chance to become part of the team. Of course we have final say and we may invite some people onboard just because. But allowing the forum members (your peers) vote on who they would like to see at these meets and competitions helps give us a good a bit more info about the individual. Obviously if the person is an asshat none of their peers will vote them through.

We're flexible on the decals. We'd like to have at least one on the front or rear window.

Dang that does look good. And I agree, even if you could have talked him into spending just $50 bucks on some sound deadener it would make a noticeable difference. Eh, it'll give you guys something to do later down the road. Still can't believe you were able to get 1/0 in the stock tracks... I had issue running 12 gauge in mine.

Glad we finally got you taken care of. Good luck!

And here I am in Idaho enjoying the upper 80s and avoiding the heat for once.

Man... it drives me nuts having stuff sit around for a few days waiting to be installed. A year and a half?! Good luck and have fun!

Yeah it makes a hell of a difference, but like I said I don't think that was the reason for the change.

The black anodized foil also allows for installation in sunny weather without you going blind but that wasn't the reason for the change, just a happy result.

I believe that it will be/is silver.

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Alpha Damp is projected to be 60mils thick with a 10mil foil. That means the foil is a solid 1/6th of the total thickness of the product, major stiffness! And I believe that twenty tiles per pack, totaling close to 21 sq. ft. Just stay tuned for more info.

As a rep I can't really say a whole lot about other companies, but there are several of them out there that are doing a great disservice to the entire sound deadening industry by allowing such BS statements to be posted on their websites. Be it false claims, fudged specs, or flat out lies, it hurts everyone. Unfortunately one of the few ways to combat the sh*t they are spreading is to constantly be on the look out for these sort of threads and try to bring some clarity and correct information into them. On the plus side, when people post here on SSA, the community as a whole is intelligent and posts correct and knowledgeable info and I know I really appreciate it (less typing for me!).

Dumping fuel on the fire much? These threads pop up on literally every forum about once a week so there really isn't any reason to continue this discussion. Tremonic decided to use FatMat. It's his money and his vehicle. I assume he looked at several of the other options that were available at the time of purchase and decided to go with FatMat for whatever reason (assumably because of the price point).

Based on FatMat's own guide and installation method, heat is not required, just simply clean and apply. So I would have to argue that 99% of the people using their product are installing it correctly and this product still has an extremely high failure rate. FatMat, RattleTrap XXX, and even their Mega Mat products are all fairly low on the Sound Deadening Scale of Awesomeness* (*patent pending). All sport a fairly thin aluminum constraint layer too. In this day and age, with all of the information that is out there on these products there shouldn't even be any hesitation as to which products you should really be looking at. Yet still people will continue to go the cheap route and slap on two or three layers of sh*t.

LOL exactly. Give me a few hours so I can build the ultimate sub box, a 22 gauge steel enclosure, corner joint welded together. It'll sound amazing!

You also need to be realistic at the goals you are trying to achieve. Sound deadening can only do so much. This is especially true when you're looking at flex issues. People have and continue to try to prevent flexing with layers and layers of sound deadening mat... and that is just not going to happen. And I totally agree that moving the sub and changing which way it fires would probably help.

11¢, you forgot to add the cost of the release paper.

How many years have people been saying this, yet so many people still insist on going cheap. My favorite are the people who go with a $1 sq. ft. product and use three layers of the stuff... didn't that just make that $1 sq. ft. product $3 a sq. ft.? Math fails people like that. Have you heard anyone complain about the performance of SDS's or Second Skin's products? Hell you can even throw Dynamat Xtreme in there too. The only complaint I ever seem to hear is price...

I will admit I was one of those fools that put vibration mat on the back of my license plate all those years ago... what a waste. I've since moved onto using CCF too. What about putting some of your EBR around the perimeter of the license plate?