well after gettin a phone call at 4.00 last night i promptly got my stuff together and went to the petrol station:) 2 and a half hours later i was greated by a short bloke with ladies boobs and a shed load of white boxes we promptly began opening a few boxes and comparing subs here we can see a few pics of the 12" subs level 2, level 3 and level 4 also a matrix elite thrown in for comparison level 2 level 3 level 4 level 4 vs me then we got to business with the fitting for now i'm running 2 small 800rm @ 1 ohm star sound gladiator amps until my order comes in then we had a wall and how it should look when finished we gave it a quick setting up and went for a play, now the best bit is compared to when the me's where in at full power the epic is only 3db down it is violent and i can't imagine how stupid it will be wiuth 8 times the power it can't be far off the me's if not better as it is now lets just say i'm seriously impressed and about to go for a drive lol