ChadS13TDI

Yeah I noticed that people run them at the lower wattage. I guess my concern is I just want to have more than needed and I can always turn it down I don't want to damage my electrical system so I'm willing to do whatever it takes (within reason). It's seeming like running a second battery should be pretty easy given that my car has a factory spot for a battery in the trunk. I would plan to run the power from the battery in the engine bay to the rear battery and then ground it in the trunk. then power the amp off the battery in the trunk. Question is what battery would I need/reccomended. can they be had for under $200? Regarding the Big 3 upgrade. I have seen people ADD the zero gauge to existing setup and some remove? which is the correct way, or does it matter? seems easier possibly to just add to existing but not sure? The Vehicle is a VW Passat TDI. Can you explain the efficiency piece for the AMP? I have read this somewhere but my Buddy seems to think it makes no difference what OHM you run the amp at. but I have seen efficiencys go from say 86 at 4 or 2 ohm and then 1ohm it's in the 70% range. What does this mean in layman terms? Next question is I'm pretty sure the XCON only comes in dual 1ohm or Dual 2ohm voice coils. Which one would I get for a 4ohm application? If I wanted more power could I rewire the same sub for 1 or 2ohms? I am really leaning towards just adding the second battery for what it's worth though. Sounds good on the box tuning, looking foward to hearing what you come up with. Thanks again for all the help!!!! kinetic hc600 and high strand count (ofc wire) 4ga should do the trick. I love my kinetic, you don't need an isolator, my car NEVER dies and I can bump it when the cars off at full volume for a good 45 minutes at least( 1000w mono and 320w 4channel). If you could go bigger i would too, they work wonders (solid 14.4volts at both amps). Nice that looks pretty stout. I really don't know what I'm looking at when it comes to batteries but I was those Kinetic's seem to get great reviews. I think I'm going to run my sub at 4ohm's first. Planning to get the RF t1500cdbp (pretty sure I'm butchering that model #) Pushes 1000rms, birth sheets are coming in near 1200rms. I will evaluate and see if I need a second battery or possibly just upgrade the original battery.

FNG checkin in.... Looking forward to picking the brains and getting geared up. Planning to outfit my 2013 Passat TDI with a 12" XCON

Hello, I am attacking at all angles. Voicemail, Email, and now Forum post haha. I was trying to purchase my XCON sub and my AMEX is coming up declined on the website. I know for a fact it shouldn't be getting declined. Please let me know as I want to get my order placed! thank you.

Sub is ordered used a different card! Can't wait!

Chad, ask away. I took my time and figured everything out without breaking any of the car. I'd help you out with whatever I can. I haven't done the big 3 yet, one of these days I'll crawl under the engine and take the rock guard off so I can axcess everything. I do have an XS battery up front and one in the trunk. This is a lease car, so I didn't want to drill any holes, evrything I have done can be undone! Thanks for the words. Thanks man. I'm Jealous of your car. I am now thinking of doing some door speakers hooked up to the factory setup. I was looking at the RF you got and they look nice. How do you like them? I'm probably just going to do the front doors for now. Can I swap those out without affecting the tweeters up front? how did you hook them up? also I saw you used a spacer. Was that something you purchased? Assuming it was necessary to use. Also what size is stock in the door? Sorry for all the questions. Appreciate your help!

Looks good.. I can't wait to get this thing installed!

sounds complicated lol

Well reason I ask is AMEX is an option to pay with so I would assume they accept it? IF not I will use another card I just prefer to get the points and whatnot on my "Larger" purchases

sweet! thanks man!

Good Advice. thanks.

I am starting to second guess my amp choice. If I do end up going the distance and upgrading all my electricals adding a second battery and whatnot I think I may be pushing to much power to the XCON? that amp is rated at 2200RMS 1OHM at 13.8volts (I THINK). I could be reading into this wrong but will it not push more if my voltages are in the 14's? stock right now I am pushing 14.3 volts. after doing the big 3, adding a second battery, I think I will have no problem keeping that consistant? what do you guys think?

thanks guys.

Wow awesome man. Glad I found this thread. I'm in the process of putting in a ported 12" XCON in my Passat TDI. I'd love to pick your brain on best practices to get all the trim panels off, power ran, etc. did you do the BIG 3 upgrade at least. Seems like you're running TONS of power for stock electricals. although you do have the battery I guess. Why not utitlize the rear battery mount that's used for the V6 models? anyway looks great and looking forward to following this!

Ok cool. I will go with that then. I took a look against those measurements for the box and it looks good. If you don't mind going the distance I will use your sketch to make my box. I took a look under the hood tonight to see the battery and where the alt was. The alternator is hidden pretty good. Not looking forward to the big 3. It Looks like I have at least 4gauge wire factory coming from the battery.

Sure thing on both. one question about the OFC cable from the welding supply. so you think that stuff is pliable enough to run without being a huge PITA? I don't want to have a tough time snapping trim pieces back together and whatnot.

Not sure if I want the 45's assuming that's better sure? sub and port would be rear facing yes.

I think I like it but want to measure some tonight. If its a lot of work you can wait just in case I decide to try and tweak it. But from the sounds if it I like it.

What about your thoughts on the big three on adding wire vs replacing? What is the welding wire? is it just "welding cable" that I'm looking for? sorry what is OFC? Should I use this for all my 0/1 Gauge wiring? Ok so Dual 2 Ohm VC is what I want. I think that's good then I can run the sub at 4ohm's on completely stock electricals, OR if I get the upgrades done I will wire it to 1ohm. I like that it gives me the flexibility. How does that sears battery differ from the ones that I see sold on SSA?

Yeah I noticed that people run them at the lower wattage. I guess my concern is I just want to have more than needed and I can always turn it down I don't want to damage my electrical system so I'm willing to do whatever it takes (within reason). It's seeming like running a second battery should be pretty easy given that my car has a factory spot for a battery in the trunk. I would plan to run the power from the battery in the engine bay to the rear battery and then ground it in the trunk. then power the amp off the battery in the trunk. Question is what battery would I need/reccomended. can they be had for under $200? Regarding the Big 3 upgrade. I have seen people ADD the zero gauge to existing setup and some remove? which is the correct way, or does it matter? seems easier possibly to just add to existing but not sure? The Vehicle is a VW Passat TDI. Can you explain the efficiency piece for the AMP? I have read this somewhere but my Buddy seems to think it makes no difference what OHM you run the amp at. but I have seen efficiencys go from say 86 at 4 or 2 ohm and then 1ohm it's in the 70% range. What does this mean in layman terms? Next question is I'm pretty sure the XCON only comes in dual 1ohm or Dual 2ohm voice coils. Which one would I get for a 4ohm application? If I wanted more power could I rewire the same sub for 1 or 2ohms? I am really leaning towards just adding the second battery for what it's worth though. Sounds good on the box tuning, looking foward to hearing what you come up with. Thanks again for all the help!!!!

Alright well that's kind of a bummer. Do you think a battery alone will be enough? I'm a little nervous to do the Big 3 on a brand new car. Never thought about adding a second battery but is it as simple as just tapping into the power wire that i run from my Engine battery and then Grounding it in the trunk? I can build my own box using basic tools. That would be great if you could help with a design! I am looking for a good mix use but I definatley listen to a lot of electronic, house, dubstep type music so I'd like it to be caterred toward that. My trunk is huge but I do want to retain some functionality and a small part of the pass through. My ideal MAX measurements would be 33" Wide 16.5 tall and 23" deep. Tuning I'm up for suggestion but I'm thinking 30HZ is a good spot. BTW my Altenator is 180AMP but I do have a fair amount of electronics in this car. I have a scan gauge that shows me voltage and it's usually sitting around 14-14.3vlts not sure if that is of any benefit knowing the info.