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If you get a kicker amp you need an adjustable subsonic filter as well..
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Yeah..they pay the price in the end..if they would just slow down for 2 minutes and read they would never have an issue! But they come at our head for a minute because we're at the end of the chain. The sub is the thing that makes the noise that they desire, so if it blows up then it is our warranty issue.. The only problem is warranty covers manufacturing defects, not ignorance or stupidity.
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It is called not knowing any better, and simply being a lemming and doing exactly what the manufacturer that really makes them says. It's simply not understanding how an amplifier works..in conjunction with a speaker. When you start to drop an amp below 1ohm more heat is being built up because the power supply and output portion of things of the amplifier simply cannot handle the demand that the output stage is wanting to get. When you do not have a subsonic filter...or one that is set improperly...you then start to make this thing that you've just microwaved move... You are slamming the gates open/closed on the output transistors at 90+% duty cycle, which is absolutely asinine and they freak out. Take a can of coke, pop the top open and bend it back and forth a few millimeters...within it's mechanical limitations that tab will never break. Now if you start to bend it past its mechanical limitations is when you start to get into trouble. This is where the subsonic filter comes in and making sure that you are not playing full power below port tuning frequency of a sub. If you already have something that's hot from running it hard on one of the Korean amps and you start yanking the soft parts past their mechanical limitations more and more heat builds up... You get to the point where so much heat builds up that the spiders start smoldering...they won't catch on fire until you've clipped the signal to death, vaporized all of the flame retardant spray that the spiders are soaked in and then it smokes. (square wave form, dc voltage out of the amp because the power supply cannot handle what you are doing to it) It's not the sub, there is absolutely nothing wrong with running those leads like they are. What's going on is an issue of the big cheap Korean amplifiers in and of themselves...and total ill-regard to what a microwave and conductive material does. Hope this helps you understand...if you run a Crown A6000Gti you'll never have a problem...because it's an A/B amp....the other stuff that is cheap...don't run it below 1ohm or you are going to have nothing but problems because in order to get that big power cheaply and cut out on the parts that are going into the amplifier the switching frequency of the power supply must be ramped way up...in turn microwaving woofer parts. Yes, that is true, I think, that little which amp can work on on .5 ohm, daily. I think if you have a daily sub in daily(big) box, you have a very big box impedance rise, which mean that if you want more efficiency from amp ( without clipping, buy sub with dual 1 ohm wire and wire down to .5 ohm, because in real life you got 2ohm impedance or more, thats the point of this quote. I don't know for woofer box without impedance rise. So..after I explain why to not do something...you continue to say let's do it? The last thing on your mind in a daily driving install should be impedance rise...in a musical application it simply does not matter! SPL burping is another scenario. Unless you want to invest heavily in recones...I'm telling you do NOT do it.
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It is called not knowing any better, and simply being a lemming and doing exactly what the manufacturer that really makes them says. It's simply not understanding how an amplifier works..in conjunction with a speaker. When you start to drop an amp below 1ohm more heat is being built up because the power supply and output portion of things of the amplifier simply cannot handle the demand that the output stage is wanting to get. When you do not have a subsonic filter...or one that is set improperly...you then start to make this thing that you've just microwaved move... You are slamming the gates open/closed on the output transistors at 90+% duty cycle, which is absolutely asinine and they freak out. Take a can of coke, pop the top open and bend it back and forth a few millimeters...within it's mechanical limitations that tab will never break. Now if you start to bend it past its mechanical limitations is when you start to get into trouble. This is where the subsonic filter comes in and making sure that you are not playing full power below port tuning frequency of a sub. If you already have something that's hot from running it hard on one of the Korean amps and you start yanking the soft parts past their mechanical limitations more and more heat builds up... You get to the point where so much heat builds up that the spiders start smoldering...they won't catch on fire until you've clipped the signal to death, vaporized all of the flame retardant spray that the spiders are soaked in and then it smokes. (square wave form, dc voltage out of the amp because the power supply cannot handle what you are doing to it) It's not the sub, there is absolutely nothing wrong with running those leads like they are. What's going on is an issue of the big cheap Korean amplifiers in and of themselves...and total ill-regard to what a microwave and conductive material does. Hope this helps you understand...if you run a Crown A6000Gti you'll never have a problem...because it's an A/B amp....the other stuff that is cheap...don't run it below 1ohm or you are going to have nothing but problems because in order to get that big power cheaply and cut out on the parts that are going into the amplifier the switching frequency of the power supply must be ramped way up...in turn microwaving woofer parts.
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Yeah and fry every tinsel you hook it up to. Bad idea boss.
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Post your dimensions that you come up with in here and we'll double check to make sure you have your size and tuning correct.
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Change it around to make it fit your car and keep the same volume and tuning.
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With that kind of budget...get amps that are worth buying. Pickup a Crown A6000GTi's or Zapco 9.0's.
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I believe magnets are in customs, not 100% sure right off the top of my head.
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Not 100% sure yet. We'll make a thread when they are ready to roll.
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Correct...I've put it in the first post.
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Whatever you can get the cheapest that has an adjustable subsonic filter..
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You'll likely never hear a difference.. BTW Sean I emailed you about that crossover...do you still want to get rid of it?
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Messed up on order form and want different size subs
NDMstang65 replied to Norcalbigbeto209's topic in General Fi
Stop freakin out man. I told you, we have to refund your payment. Then you can order again. -
Thank you Mark!!! Edit: Aaron!!!
NDMstang65 replied to bassahaulic's topic in News, Announcements, and Lobby
i lub yu. -
Not yet..gotta work a few more things out.
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We're going to start doing some fun stuff with the Fi Side Chat and on our Facebook page...add us and we'll update the page and get some stuff rolling. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Fi-Car-Audio/163751923651416
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Yeah I had to go through and get facebook to delete all of that shit because it was our IP...which was a whole ordeal. We've got control of it now though.
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Messed up on order form and want different size subs
NDMstang65 replied to Norcalbigbeto209's topic in General Fi
No it isn't going to cost you anything, we'll just refund the payment. You need to measure to see if you can fit 18's in a crown vic or not...box guidelines are in the Tech section. Grab a tape measure and do some measuring -
Messed up on order form and want different size subs
NDMstang65 replied to Norcalbigbeto209's topic in General Fi
We'll have to cancel the order for you and then you can re order it. Scott won't be back until late tonight. Please email me your Name and order number Nick " at " ficaraudio.com and we'll get it canceled for you. -
You even dare compare fi to jl audio !?!?! Made in America always beats made in china JL actually drops soft parts in their woofers in florida The w7's at least.
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We will not have things ready to build and ship as we are waiting on the magnets to get in. Once we get them in (around the 31st) orders will be filled in the order that they are received. That is if customs does not hang us on releasing our magnets to us.
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Well..given the direction we are taking with the trying to re-iterate the importance of having manufacturing here in the states it reminded me of something I learned of in history class years ago. FDR was famous for his "Fireside Chat's" back in the days of nothing but a radio to talk to the people on a personal level...so this is what i want to do. I'll hop in the chat in the evenings when I have time if you want to shoot the breeze. I would rather not to get into a technical debate or an enclosure Q&A as well we have the forum for that. But if you'd like to come in and shoot the breeze go for it. I'm in there now for those who have never been in, it is at the top of the page in the "Chat" tab. We'll see how this goes and see if we can get a set time occasionally for people to come in and socialize. -Nick