Yes i have a buddy of mine who owns a shop, he swears by JL but he know how i like my music, and i heard them both in store on a simple head unit, mine will be on a pioneer avic z2 and alpine mrx-f35. so hearing them in there i couldnt get a good feel for them like i wanted. wanted to see some 2nd opinions. same for 6x9s, also im unsure of what hz to have them at for that alpine amp, and the eq on the radio.