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And you picked maybe the worst 2 guys to talk about health issues too. lol Especially messed up gets and weight loss.

Yikes. I don't remember anyone saying fuck off and die. As for your medical problems, I am sad to hear it. You are smart, and eloquent though so I am pretty sure you can get a job. Steven Hawkins has one and he might have a few more set backs than you. Do you know how many people in the military serve without limbs? Quite a few. I would say they have some set backs too. I don't know your lot in life, and I didn't call you lazy or anyone taking government money lazy. I would appreciate you not putting words I my mouth. I said it is a bad idea to encourage those that CAN work to not work. If you read my posts, even my personal example, mentioned that because of the system it would be stupid for many to get jobs because they can live better by not working. I am sorry for your problems. You have probably gone through a hell I don't ever understand. It would make me mad. I don't think enough to shove my feelings down someone elses throat but I havent lived your life. What do you know about my vision? My words directly said that, at times, I wish people had to sacrifice self a little to vote. You took the word serve as some shit about you being on the front lines or something. You can serve your community and country peacefully. As J mentioned earlier a lot of our military spends time helping out durring crisis from natural disasters.... What I do know is that you cannot tolerate people with ideas other than your own, and that is something you learned, not some illness. Is the current system on its way to making your life better? I even called out the fact that the pre existing medical thing is something that helps people short term and has made some peoples lives a little better. Did you not even bother to read that? I'm sorry this is personal to you and you can't handle people with options other than your own. I really am. Maybe if less people had your attitude they could talk to me and help me understand how and why the current trend is a positive movement. For your clarification my vision of America or any world in fact involves a place where you get to have your opinion. Your vision obviously is one where anyone with a vision outside of yours is not welcome.

I had a great leg day this last week, but did something yesterday to my right knee. It is football sized. Going to ice it right now.

How much weight have you put on and what is your strength increase since you started?

My roommates mom does a similar job here. She is an extreme "bleeding heart liberal" at times. Even she calls on a few hundred bogus claims a year.

At times I think if you don't serve you shouldn't have a vote. Something about ethics of putting everyone else before one's self, but that is not in tune with the American dream so much.

The thing that gets me is that I don't know what it is that people are so in love with about Obama and how he is improving quality of life. I have asked a lot of dem friends and supporters. And they never ever have anything to say other than campaign rhetoric, or something to the tune of "it's about time we had a black president". Maybe that is true. Too many middle aged white guys does look bad, but all the countries who chastised the US for not having a black president flipped the script fast. UK made an advisory to Obama team that they arr pushing the same failed agenda. China fucking publicly roasted our financial mess for heaven's sake and called our dealings unethical AND OTHER NATIONS AGREED THAT CHINA'S ASSESSMENT OF US BEING IMMORAL IS ACCURATE. Seriously, China calls us immoral. Yikes. Obama won a peace prize for promises durring his campaign that he never followed through on. The guy was groomed from the word go to be a new face and because it is exactly more of the same, every one in the world saw it right away. Everyone but our own citizens. I do know 2 people happy about the preexisting conditions laws that changed for insurance. None of my previous jobs had that as an issue, but for some it did mKe them a bit happier. If that is the only result of 4 years then I say it is just as fail as the 8 before it.

Stefan the point is more than Obama isn't doing anything to influence the change he spoke about. Nothing to change our nations dependence on a few people who work to pay for a lot who don't. And something that is maybe more true when it comes to corruption than anything else is that it only takes a few rotten apples to spoil the whole bunch. Our leaders should be doing something to influence us to be productive and teach us how to inform ourselves. Encourage people wjo want to strive, not those who just want "good enough".

J I am sorry if I sounded like we shouldn't spend as much on military, especially on enlisted wages. That is why I hammered home that my argument has nothing to do with the amount or anything similar. Just that bush and Obama are so similar that it is stupid to say Obama will bring teh hope and change but bush was a tyrant and evil. Mitt is way way way way more liberal than I like for that matter. When it comes to budget that is. I was leaving my opinion out of it, just to make a point. In my childhood I grew up in the most violent and extremely poor neighborhood around. In 95, I beleive it was, had more handgun murder than anywhere globally. My neighbor took in kids to get checks so she wouldn't have to work. Got paid extra to take on kids with development issues. My neighbor now does something similar.... this is a much nicer neighborhoods where I live now. More than 75% of the kids I went to school with were below the poverty line. After government funding the families would make as much if not more than my mother did. Only they DIDN'T have to get up every morning to get the checks. That rubs off on the kids. And it cripples the parents soul to not work but take funds. They made so much more not working that people with drive to work were put in a place that it made more sense to just stay home. Then comes the booze. And the kids again see that. In my highschool we had a fantastic basketball team, and it is so sad that that was 90% of the young mens only effort. If they couldn't make millions playing ball, then why try? I helped toutor one of our teams best players, he did go on to play pro. He plays in Germany right now I think, and it is a sad but lucky thing because he read at an elementary level as a senior. I grew up watching and living how the hand out programs work. They don't. Some people do need help, but givimg peoe money to do nothing never pays off.

Fawk. Can someone please embed that? I can't get the link right from my phone I almost peed myself laughing.

I hope this works http://onion.com/Rgd4g1

Wait... I stand corrected. Bush was a lot funnier and in way better shape than Obama.

Shiz, you missed my point. I really don't damn well care about the budget for the sake of this argument. Obama said he would make massive cuts to the military budget and bring troops home. Wrong or right I don't care for the sake of my point. My point is if you enjoy the direction Obama is going then you really can't say didly about the way Bush handle things. They manipulated the budget the same damn way. Or had the same intent. And from the damn get go Obama said he would be transparent. I loved the idea of everything on CSPAN. Bush just had the fucking decency to flick us off to our face if you lime that sort of attitude. It's like two dudes both using the same woman as a cum dumpster. One lets her know she is being fucked over, the other one calls it making love. Either way we are getting ass fucked. Both used executive order to help their hommies. Both pushed healthcare. And neither want to pull their dicks out of the sloppy mess in the middle east. And for the last damn time I don't really care if it is right or wrong for the sake of this argument. All I am saying is that Obama increased all the things Bush did, and passed some of the shit Bush tried to but could not. The difference is just a face, the way they worm is the damn same. Obama made kissy faces to the lower class, women, and homosexual community. Bush appealed to the lower class, Christian value groups, and did some fear mongering. In both they extended gifts to the groups of people least likely to work for it. Obama sent out federal bucks by way of extending UE or other wellfare bucks. Bush just put a check in everyones hand. Bush era total annual defense budget is smaller than total annual Obama era. Like it or not, it is. For better or for worse it is. They pandered to different groups, but they distract the public and push the same legislation for the same people. They argue social issues because it is sensational. Not because it matters. Unless we do become communists the private sector and then local legislation will always fix social issues. Companies recognize gay partnerships all over and allow health coverage. States vote on it. Fuck even Cali and some other states overturn federal rules and "legalized" marijuana. Social issues make a great damn distraction though. If you look at the situation we have had 2 presidents who have nearly the EXACT same agenda. Almost identical. Bush passed a shit load of law under the patriot act. It's here, and he tried to push through a healthcare agenda. He failed but Obama is working that out now. Obama didnt overturn anything Bush did and increased most of the same spending habits. That is the reality. It isn't a statistic, it is just how thing are. Troops are still over "there" with no coherent plan to come home. There is no transparent view into the government. The laws that alow our .gov organizations to look in on our private lives are still there. Spending on the war machine is up and climbing, and we won't have to "worry our little heads about medicine" anymore because uncle Sam will take care of it. Like I said, different skin color, different accent, same bullshit.

That's irrelevant. If that were the case then we would be in plenty of other countries. I don't deny the genocide, but I don't buy that as an excuse after the original reasoning falls apart. I should also add that I'm talking specifically about Iraq. As to the Obama defense spending, everything I've read has been about reducing military spending, and Romney has flat out stated that he doesn't believe in reducing military for balancing the budget. Dude, didn't you read muh poast? LoL I said that the combination of many things lead us there.

It only allows me to give one 'like'. You have seen AAC's Honey Badger haven't you? Oh yes. And honey badger don't give a fuck. Sexy sexy SBR. I am not a super big fan of the small H&K stock. It is really small on my large frame. Noveski makes a nice on too from what I hear.

I want me a 300blk for Christmas.

But I even have a special chicken hat.

Lol at Mitt

I am Romanian after a liter of vodka.

And Stefan, you are right. We should stay out, but at the time the dictators there were doing some horrible things to their people. If you think for one second we were not pressured inside our own country and fro. Other countries to step in you are wrong. Do you know how often the littlest guy at the bar will come up to me and push me, or shoulder check me just to prove something? And if I witness some kid getting beat by someone how will that make me look if I don't do anything? A decision was made to step in. And in Reagans day he worked with the area to produce drugs to sell to other countries while pushing a no drug policy here. Energy is the push it took to take action. Should we have drilled in the wildlife reserve? Should we destroy or deregulate drilling elsewhere. Allow for more nuclear research? At the time it was thought that we could maintain energy supply without too much environmental problems in our back door and help knock down a corrupt government. One that hated the US even though it profited from us. Maybe it wasn't the right choice, but if we pulled all of our spending from those nations how much more would we have destroyed the area? If chill does decide he will work for 2 bucks an hour and skips education to work labor will that help us? I don't know the best choice, but any one can see from the get that we have stopped choosing presidents based on real life problems and more on who spends more and who says the nicer things. That is our fault as a nation. Obama's defense budget is bigger than Bushes. In his 4 years there have been more issues domestically that he just borrowed cash from others to make it look good. He even paid off GM, the biggest most corrrupt, "big corporation". What I know is Obama votes and influences the same way as Bush did. Bush even tried to pusb through a public health care fiasco, Obama was just successful. If you like Obama you like Bush by how they act. They have a different skin tone and different accent but that is about it.

I heart big jons posts.

I remember that Ward Churchill guy now. His university cited him with plagiarism, and some other academic crimes of research fabrication or something. I had to look it up, but I remember reading that essay before, and then all the hot mess around the guy afterwards. He also squaks about being native american but can't prove it to save his life. Yet took a preferential job placement by marking he was Native American on some job application.

Waiting for the: "yeah that." response now... Canada doesn't have to spend shit on defense because they don't fucking meddle with other countries. After we were attacked we should have shown no restraint and just bombed the whole middle east? Come on now. We didnt crash planes into anyone else. We didn't bomb citizens. We could have, but thT defense budget is so big because we are trying not to kill. A carpet bomb of the whole middle east would cost a shit load less. And less American lives. But since we are relatively ethical here we didn't and we don't operate that way. The alternative of not doing anything is also asinine. Even the asshole in office, who said he would pull out in 6 months when starting the campaign, saw how stupid that would be. We could either statt with some ultraviolence and ruin the entire sub continent, or we could be as peaceful as possible. Then Obama lost perhaps the greatest peace keeping general of our time and the most informed on the area and how it works there. That cost years and lives, and the whole place will collapse if we leave. If the US gets attacked by terrorism because we are spoiled and fat, what do you think will happene when we are spoiled, fat, and left people there to rot under some shit regime? The hatred for America stems long before 9/11. Yes, that was my point. Do you know why?

The whole transparency thing and the "troops home in 6 months" shit makes me sooooooooo mad. I'm boiling.

Chill. If you beleive that here is some shit right out of Obummers mouth Maddow is amusing actually. But she is sensational as the next.