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I love savage, and what they tried to do here... but this is a HORRIBLE design for anything but benched shooting. SO much shit to catch on you. Just holding it in the store my shirt go caught on it twice.

I get why warfighters like all the rails all over... but damn does it suck in everyday use. Shit catches on everything.

Space guns peng! awesome. my Epeen is growing already.

Oh? Maybe. i don't know. The mags are stupid expencive. But at less than 1000 lower than the closest other options....

I can!

Find me something in an adjustable stock with a repeater action and box magazine that is a 7mm WSM or better, non belted round, for less than 3000 and I will be all up in it's grill! ;-D

It does. And super space gun styles!

The Sako brand new without negotiating is 3k......

The funny thing is that the caliber I choose doesn't affect the price of the type of gun I want. In general I haven't been a fan of r700 action/triger set ups. Savage is a little better. The accutrigger I think makes me feel better so it is overall more friendly. I also think the BBL nut thing is brilliant. So they wow me with smart engineering but the actions definitely don't feel as "solid". Even if I was happy with them, neither come on a chassis I like. So then it is buy a whole gun and redo everything or get a custom action like Surgeon and build from that. Surgeons wait time is absurd, but it is what it is. Shillen actually has a really reasonable price on barreled actions. All the features of savage with a r700 mounting base and bbl nut set up in a much more solid and trued action. Sounds perfect right.... well, I don't think he makes actions for anything bigger than a 308 bolt face. So no WSM. And that means I would still want 2 guns. And even if I went ultra cheep on a hunting rig I wouldn't be familiar with it. I think that buying a big bolt magnum, and making my AR 10 the best it can be, is the best option for me. At least financially. I should have won the lotto. Free AI's for everyone. :-(

.....I keep shopping and shopping and comparing prices..... depending on a few things I think I may end up with a sako TRG 42 in 338 LM. The .300WM is belted and reloading is near as close as makes no difference to .338LM. The .308 is not in the cards. I already have a semi auto for that. So for $3000 MSRP here is what I am thinking.... Nonsense overkill, but it meets every requirement I have and is a chassis I know I am comfortable with and can change LOP and cheek weld height. It may even be something I could put on a more "modern" chassis if I want later. The truth is though the TRG is so close to perfect because it has so little to catch on shit and is simle. The savage 110BA is an example of a modern chassis that just got it all wrong. Sako actions feel great. The trigger is great and not a super light match triger. I have found on super light match trigers, unless I am benched up, makes me nervous. The 2 stage style is a feature IMHO as long as the break is crisp and short. BBL will be great from the get go, as should everything be ready right out of the box. The biggest fail is that the twist is a 1:10 and not a 1:9 that would stabilize the heavy bullets better. The only other 2 out of the box options are AI, Savage, or the funky Blaser. The AI is 6k used and abused or over 8k new. The normal thumb hole chassis might be a problem for me with my fucked up hand shape. So 2k more, but still an unknown chassis that may need to be replaced. The savage would need a new chassis instantly. I have used the one for on that system and I really hate it. So 1800 for the gun then another 1000 for it to be set up in a new chassis. Then the goofy space gun blaser. It actually feels great... but is over 4k and never find it used.

I would poke her pi with my imaginary number.

Same. Most dubstep makes me want to kill. Blink 182 brings back some memories. One of my least fave punkish bands but make me thinknof some good memories. "I GUESS THIS IS GROWING UP!!"

I would shit my pants shipping a rifle with glass on it. My god. "What the fuck you mean you lost my package." "Sorry sir, we cannot find it." "You muther.... Hommie come hold my gold while I rage on some postal workers" Fuck usps. Use FedEx or UPS, at least if they break it you'll still get it. + insurance, not worried. I have actually heard that the USPS is the best. If it if shothuns or long guns. If it is handguns just take it to an FFL and let them do it.

WTF are you doing up Peng?

Livers grow back fast man. No worries. Just drink a rockstar in the morning and git r dun

I would shit my pants shipping a rifle with glass on it. My god. "What the fuck you mean you lost my package." "Sorry sir, we cannot find it." "You muther.... Hommie come hold my gold while I rage on some postal workers" I've had friends fly to Europe to shoot in world cups and the airlines misplaces their gun cases, and when shooting the finals with a borrowed gun the airline returns it. First air trip ever I saw a busted aluminum welded rifle case that had 5k in precision rifle in it, same trip they broke a cheap aluminum pistol case of ours. If the case hadn't been duct taped closed, things would have been a lot different. I'll only fly with pelican/storm style cases now. Didn't Pelican buy storm?

Texans drink stuff other than lone star and keystone or budwiser???? how dare you! :-D

No other way around it I suppose...

I would shit my pants shipping a rifle with glass on it. My god. "What the fuck you mean you lost my package." "Sorry sir, we cannot find it." "You muther.... Hommie come hold my gold while I rage on some postal workers"

Aged ghurka and a bottle of madeira wine.

Deal! Sounds good to me!

Shit. We could CNC knife frames too. It would probabpy be even more profitable! Next to no materials and simple design but uber spendy.

Texans drink stuff other than lone star and keystone or budwiser????

A high-school buddy of mine built his 3-axis CNC for very cheap, probably around $1k. He uses it for MDF though. But with the right tooling it could probably do metal. That is amazing. My guess is that the tolerance would need to be higher than one could make but what a cool project.

Er, um, "discount"...right... The less everyone else knows the better. I won't ask questions and will provide alibi