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He whipped around for you going 5 MPH over????

Those desiel guys are bitchy because they have not had problems for soooooooo long. The engines rub longer in general. They require less bullshit. They can run of kerosene, hydrolic fluid, and cleaned up fried chicken oil. They have been capable of getting nearly 30-40% better MPG compared to similar gas engine. I know my buddy can scratch at 30mpg on highway trips when going at a mild pace. And it doesn't loose 50% of that mpg if he decides to haul something. Winters in cold states are a little annoying, you want the right fuel and to make sure you warm it thoroughly before you drive. They don't like cold running.

Less problems in total, far greater cost per failure.I agree 200% I was reading something about the Ford 6.4l and it seems that if you don't drive it long distances that you'll have problems with this exhaust filter thing not being able to burn off the soot and then all this talk about exhaust fluid and adding shit in your fuel and different blends of fuel for the winter and the list goes on. WTF is exhaust fluid and why the hell would you build an engine that doesn't do well in town or idle. It sounds like a damn drag engine not being able to drive in town and not being able to sit at idle for long. I don't know if all or this is just a bad Ford design or if its all manufacturers. I've always heard diesels were a lot more maintenance free than a gas engine, but after all the had things I read it sounds like somebody needs to get their head out of their ass! LolIt's called diesel particulate filter and it's standard on all the new small diesels in europe, which btw, work well driven in town. The DPF will always build up soot, regardless of what you do and the only way to burn it is through high exhaust gas temperatures, ie run it hard. Same goes for VNT turbos, if you don't work it hard, the VNT will jam. Exhaust fluid is just urea, which is used to further clean the exhaust gases. Turbo Diesel definitely requires MORE maintenance than a gas engine. Less maintenance usually. The surrounding systems require extra work. Prior to the filter, urea injection and oppressive EGR, they ran like a top forever. It is as Peng said, the "band aids" fail. The big 7+ liter turbo from Ford before the 6 had a turbo and rocked. The one after the 6.4 growing pains is a trooper too. Even the 6 liter can be reliable, but it needs EGR work and perhaps some exhaust work.

Go to the Doc. Kudos for finishing up the job tough guy. I may have called it quits myself.

Less problems in total, far greater cost per failure. I agree 200%

Usually they are less problems chill. I wouldn't want one for the hassle of DEF but an older one would solve that.

I didn't know about the oil cooler either, but any all hard duty trucks could benefit from that.

LOL! Ace in HER hole.

If it does not have ARP head studs, egr delete and a somewhat new oil cooler then it will. Its not if it will need done its just when. To do it right thats about a 5k job. So if its never been done just keep that in mind. But other than that the 6.0 is a strong motor and they run awesome. Why new head studs? Do you have somewhere I could read on that? I have been thinking about an older 250, 350, or excursion myself......

I want you to also know that I am nearly certain that no one was offended. In fact I bet most people here, even the people you are upset with, still want to help you. You can also know that this is the only forum where you can speak your mind and let out your feelings and not only won't your comments be deleted, but no one will hate you or lash out at you for what you say. What you should realize is that when you post, it is a direct reflection of you. Can you imagine what your words feel like to the people who spend their time here daily, for free, trying to stop misinformation from being spread and help people at the same time? Especially when those people don't take time to read and follow the rules. How you feel is important, but do you think the way you handled it is appropriate, especially when you are providing commentary on others behavior?

You don't want to support the best forum around? You not wanting to donate is fine. Not purchasing from the store because of the who make it the best around is a little absurd. It also highlights that you didn't post this to find out about how to stop a deduction from your PayPal account. You started this topic because you had something you wanted to say, and you did. If we are to follow your thinking, you are saying that even though this is the best forum around, you don't want to support it by having a deduction from your PayPal. You also won't buy products supporting the store. Your reasoning for that, is some newbies are offended because they didn't follow the rules and they were spoken to in a manner that you see as harsh. Is that what we are supposed to understand from your comments?

Who hasn't been the new guy and had feelings of rejection when they start out trying to learn something? I know that I had to learn how to ask questions properly. Part of the problem is that EVERYONE has to agree to the rules. NO ONE actually sticks to them and probably doesn't read them. Maybe you have the opinion that if mods or people with information should ignore misinformed beliefs to spread. I don't know. Your personal offence to actions against people you don't know shows a rare form of empathy. To me, you sound like you are whining. Publicly. And instead of trying to make things better, like the mods you have a problem with, you Pissed in the corner to make a point. You could have quietly asked this in a PM, but you have a point to make. Congratulations. Now you have a couple options, try to make things better, or go away like your post says you wanted to. Those mods you complain about keep this site going, and stop the spread of lies on a daily basis, for free. And they don't make public spectacles of their tempertantrums as you are doing here. I hope you take a few minutes and realize that your post here is building the exact kind of problem you hate. You probably meant well, but all you brought to the table was a complaint, some shitty put downs, and drama. You could have brought something positive to help make a change instead of throwing shit like a Pissed off primate. When your attitude is that you should be a jerk in a public setting I can see that you will probably get along better on another forum.

Everyone will bug you about the EGR and then when you tell them it's been dealt with and tuned it will pull down apartment complexs. Great trucks. Strong engine. Really horrible EGR problem. Databoutit.

Yup. And if you have the issue it's bad. If you don't, it's great. Many people just do an EGR delete or aftermarket the whole thing.

Wow.

I cannot wait until it is over so I can just watch all of them back to back.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/09/theres-clown-terrorizing-small-british-town/69425/ This is hilarious.

More military base shooting.

I want the blue one! Or the new 24 karat gold one. LoL

Glad they are ok J!

Fixed.

Saw a shirt One Big Ass Mistake America Lawl

I <\3 football.

Damn. Well....I am born to kill. And you will have to imagine that on the pic.

Looks like Billy Mays as a baby lolDoes the crop show the text at the bottom "born to kill"?