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That's an ok thought, but the truth is safety is vehicle dependent and size doesn't always matter. An example is the santefe crash rating. Same as the BMW. The BMW will stop, turn, brake and accelerate better, and carries less momentum. Of course I would rather be in an F350 with brush guards and all that if someone does hit me, but it doesn't always reflect overall safety or likelihood of a crash.

Ha! Timing!

We went to 3 dealerships and 20+ cars before I could talk the wife out of a micro SUV. Thankfully they cost too much or else I would have one. Our 3 series had 32k miles all the options, and one of the best engines ever made. No turbo, has xDrive, and one of the best entertainment systems... Anyway, you gotta do what you gotta do, but I would put any kids I was kicking up in my car or the wife's and feel much safer than in a santafe or similar.

Also better than everything on the list by MILESThat car is the best value in luxury and performance out there on the used market IMHO. Room, 300hp, reliable and cheep to fix(compared to German and all its turbo competition), looks good, and AWD. I don't know much about Lexus, but I could also recommend most of those as an option and feel safe. Maybe they aren't exciting, but the G37 will have miles more room than anything in the SUV category you are looking at.

There are no reliable smallish SUVs for under $20k within 500 miles of me. And an actual "small SUV" as in smaller than an explorer is usually a waste of space. The ergonomics are wrong and so much space is wasted. I don't think you are as tall as me so that will help, but then in a well designed sedan you will get 3 times the benefit of being shorter. The small sedan turns into a mid size for you then.

that is the old body style then and a horrible car. The new one is WAY betterThe interior and looks are horrible on the new one. Worst fit for my body of every car we tried. The new Taurus is horrible too. Huge, but I feel more cramped than in the Ford fusion. Mike if you think you need some kind of back door room like a small SUV, get a Ford focus. Easily more room than any of the vehicles you mentioned. My roommates ST fit (in its packing boxes) a squat rack, heavy bench, Olympic bar, curl bar, leg extension and preacher curl set up in his car. Also 150+ pounds or weight. One trip.

SUV is a for sure. No human babies yet, but we have 2 60lb+ pups and we want to buy something that does have room for the human kiddo in about 1.5-2 years. I'll have to re-look at those vehicles. I think the SRX may be too small for us. I thought the CX5 was, but after looking at some other vehicles yesterday it may not be. The biggest problem I have with the Volvo is that UGLY center console in the years that we can afford. Seriously. a keypad in a car is ridiculous. I'm 6'2 400 pounds. My ! Dog weighs more than your 2 dogs and then add an extra 25 pounds. We fit better in the 3 than any SUV until you get to full size. The 3 series sedan has more room than everything you mentioned. There is no small SUV that will fit your needs. A traverse or edge could work, but they suck.

Correct I6 :-)

G37

Our is absolutely loaded though with xDrive and a 2011 I believe. Still has factory warranty covering maintenance and a full CPO. And that V6 is boss as Fuck. Well over 200hp.

Seriously, best fucking deal ever.

V6 3 series with CPO. We just got one for $20k.

Also. What a shit show for sales. Oh well. 14 hour day done. Still plenty of time to cry into some bourbon.

Ryan, come on now.... We already knew. :-)

Ungh I'm starving.

I love lamb.

I have recently been working with bands at work. Helps keep the muscles limber enough.

That is horrible. I'm glad you have raised such an intelligent child and have made a relationship where she feels safe at home with family.

Yeah man. Thanks for being there to help. You gentlemen are awesome in general. For a bunch of cock addicts....

My cell phone doesn't have subwoofers.

It's time for a power blackout drinking session maybe. When all else fails drinking until you can't pick up a glass is usually a good, responsible choice.

http://youtu.be/S2DTLbTQj0I

Who has 2 thumbs and is ready to own the Saturday sales experience meeting today? This mutha fukka!

That's my outlook! Last time we chatted it helped me get back on track. I was second guessing myself and feeling distraught and after I did what was right I realized my stress was because my mind took me back to the emotional state when I worked at the hospital. I worked with the absolute worst human being(in the professional sense) that I have ever met. Out of work he was fine. Anyway, with my head being clear now and having confirmed that I'm not over reacting my attitude, confidence, and even sales have taken a little boost. Leapfrogging into something that is better pay and hours will probably be good for me anyway.