dem beats

That's Spooky.

You said turbo S. I kept thinking Stuttgart.

Where to rent? Does adorama or B&H not work?

I'm sincerely hoping that what they have to offer has the mid and bass more forward Than the highs. I fatigue extremely fast from bright speakers/cans. I'm so excited that you found these guys Sean.

Exactly what I wanted to know Sean. Thanks for clarifying! You have me excited!!!

Sean, I thought this would be a good place for the longer reply I am looking for rather than text. Maybe someone here can benefit too. For the CIEM molds you would recommend Starkey correct? The IEM engineer likes their work correct? Since they have some hearing aid background why don't they do the molds in house and what makes Starkey better at that process?

I hate iPhones. That's all I can offer you as comment. I also love tmobil. But that's just my luck with them.

All I can tell you is that I have listened to cans up to $500. My AKGs are super awesome in fact. They don't hold a candle to the $60 etomics I had 10 years ago when it comes to detail. The UE tripple was even more detailed and had bass. I also feel speakers are the best possible sound, but IEMs over cans in every category. At least in the <$600 price bracket.

You have custom earplugs. Toss those in and check out how silent everything gets. Even with the rubber plugs I could shut out almost any soundfloor around me. The memory foam ones helped even more. I have never had cusom anything for my ears but I'm guessing it will cut even more sound and be even more comfy.

I have never ever felt any headphones that could compare the the IEMs I have had. The only experience that was as special were some Grados cans and I hated that they rested on my ears. They were not even close to as detailed but the drum and midbass had so much fun and punch that indidnt care the music was colored. IEMs can be so brutal and cruel to poorly recorded music. Nothing catches the details. Fingertips on strings and lips against breath guards next to the mix are all reproduced in painful detail. Bass is also special. You obviously can't feel it like you can with a walk of 18" beasts or anything but it will give your ears the impression you are feeling it. Haven't had an on or around ear headphone do that. Even the over bass boosted cans have less bass and it's muddy horseshit. IEMs are the best way to just simply listen. Allong with the attenuation of the background it's gold. At least in any scenario where you want to either not broadcast your music or you want it portable. I only purchased around the ears to change it up from my IEMs when listening home. Give my canal a break fRom the IEM. They are a better tool for critically listening or being active and listening. The only downside, if there is one, is they can cut down the external noise so much you could be in danger of your around machines or vehicles.

The other day I was looking for shorts, and came across a pair of jeans from 15 years ago or something. Whoa. Ultra stretch denim. Silver made men's for a while way back. Easy 3 1/2" drop on the low rise. Ultra funny. I had to buy a 36" inseam, instead of 32ish, so I could get my thighs into the legs.

I'm really frustrated with my arms. I'm back to curling 115 for reps and my arms aren't even 18"

I'm really going to look into that local place and also Westone a bit more me thinks. The build of the etomics and sure just makes me more nervous. In truth the UE were on the radar but I thought I should at least try something new since its still kind of a crap shoot to be trial run a custom mold from a regular IEM. JH seems interesting too but it seems to be way ovpriced.ced

The etomics are what I would call "clinical". They also lacked bass. I'm sure a better pair would have had more oomoh. Being cruel to music that wasn't perfect, and the fact that anything bright and overly accurate makes my ears hurt fast is the reason I didn't try anything more expensive from them. They also had an issue at that time that even sweat moisture could sneak into the shell and cause corrosion.

Remember when I had $1750 in cash a month I needed to blow? :facepalm:

So pretty

I have had 5 sets of sure IEMs. I gave them as gifts or sold them until I ended up with the knew I kept for years. Then I grabbed the UE tripple knock offs after the Sure pair had a critical internal failure. The UE knock off shell was more durable even though it was cracked by someone stepping on it and cracking the exterior plastic. I'm positive the custom Sure would be much better build quality, especially years later, but it's still something I think about.

The use a softer compound for the canal so it flexes as you move or chew. That is what makes me so absolutely interested. In going to use them while moving around 99.999999999999999999% of the time so if it stays in and is more comfy, I'll be a lot happier. My confidence is also boosted as they make hearing devices for all day every day use. I feel like they will really know how to make a comfortable IEM.... For instances like.... Ohhhhhh... Pedalling for a bunch of hours perhaps.

I have had both sure and etomics. Sure was worse until I got into the >$400 range. My Ultimate ear rebadge buds were better and less $$$. Detailed to the point of being upset with poor production. I would take the $60 etomics(not sure the real price as I got then on a closeout deal) over the rest until I got $399 for my sures and then later the other UE knock offs.

With 25 DB of attenuation everywhere is a good listening space...

.375 cheytac. My dream.

I really like your logic. Maybe I'll swing out and see then also. For the universal IEM category, anything under $300 was really underwhelming.

They are on my radar now.... Aside from local what has you interested? Westone really has me interested because of the dual material and their ongoing work in the hearing aid world. I'm assuming they know what they are doing?

Video is worthless, but the mashup made me laugh.

I enjoyed this. Those that liked J Dilla might dig it.