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Yeah I'm pretty set on the BL right about now. BigJon are all those necessary like the extra battery, etc....? by the way i have a oem stock stereo, upgrading to a deck would be best right? SQ wise well sq wise, for subs you have more control with a after market H/u, and you will have a little better sound yes. i allways say get a better h/u as far as the upgreads yeah most of them are... see if you can find out what size alt you have OEM. and then you can go from there.. heres the thing. if you underpower an amp, you have have problems... somthing like clipping, you will run a underpowered amp HOT... and hot is bad.... and in some cases if an amp dips below 11 volts it can fry or even burst into flames. but the biggest reason for the upgreads is to protect your investment... you start clipping that amp and its gonna clip that sub,... and then your gonna buy a recone for your bl. and maybe a new amp... save some money.. do the big three no doubt, do a run of 0 gauge to the rear... depending on the size of your alt. you may be able to get away with just getting a badass batt under your hood. i allways worry about not having enough power. just cause i like knowing that i have a strong back bone to my audio.... my bass that is haha some people will corect some of the statments that i just made, and thats the great thing about a fourm, you can allways learn more form others.

sounds good, i say sundown saz 1500d . ... but you know that you will have to do alot more work. you must do the big three. get some 0 gauge, maybe a h/o alt. and another batt.

the brama and the XXX are diffrent class subs..... thats like askin someone is a lincoln a caddy and a CRX..... thay all be good cars for what thay are,,, but.. not in the same class. just want i think. edit.. the BTL or the BL are closer in the apple and lemon race.

what FI product do you see BR power on?

i just responded to your IM lost. just as i said you must give info on what you want in a sub also what your goals are in an audio system. one of the biggest things that stands on in the Q and the BL are that you can run a Q in a sealed encloser. the BL you should not. your also able to to bettel control your sub with tha potions. also with the BL you can choose to have your configuration change like if you only buy one sub now. your get a dual 2..... then later you decide you want a second sub.. you can have your first sub reconed with a dual 1 VC. to change your OHM load with the universal option on the BL o yeah.. i throw gobs of power at my BL's...... im not sure if i would send the same power to a Q... not that it could not handle it.. .but in my eyes... the Q is like a shy pretty lady you kiss after dinner..... the BL is a chick that you buy a few drinks and take her to your place and pound her. and well the BTL is like a batchalor party stripper... let your friends beat it up too........ im so stoned. . edit.. my BLs arent SQ.... and... i like it that way. so if your looking for somthing to play classical music on.. or maybe even some rast responsive rock i would tell you that the BL is not for you... but if you wanna piss people off and have a hard time breathing in your car get a few bls and some POWER>

the sundown saz 3000d is a great amp for those subs, i have 2 bl 15's runnning on one, and my lord, my subs are takin it like a champ and the sundown at less then half gain @ 1 ohm is more like a day at the spa then hard work for this amp

thats deep and true

oh jim, im intrested in expanding my horizons i wanna become more SQ friendly

sweet

can anyone take pics and vid for those in texas that can be there??

say man there is a guy on here that has a eclipse with 2 lm 18's with like 9k going to them.. well wait maybe it 3k for now and hes adding one more... i think.. i know he blows winshilds but im not sure about the back... but i would only imagen that you will have problems one day.

sundown saz 3000d will surly show you the road to bass. why tha BTLs? mono block is a one output made for subs. 2 channel is for powering left and right. say if you wanted a stereo sub system. or you can bridge a 2 channel for a mono output if the amp is able to. 4 channel is more for your inside speakers, you can set it up many ways, left right and front and rear....... or a active system, witch is all front, 2 channels for say mids, and 2 channels for highs, i donno if i relayed it right. but thats the way i have allways understood it but i dont know much.

Totally depends on the organization... AHHHHHH 10-4 im gonna get it labed, ASAP.

ok so i woke up today with spl on the mind, i called my local stereo shop that i once worked at, i requested a termlab run, the man told me it had not been used in 4 years, and didnt know how to use it even if it worked, he was worried about the mic, he said that maybe it had to be adjusted, or tuned, i dont know anything about that, but it said it could take weeks, i wanna see where im at on the scale, im also intrested to know where i would be at in SPL class, i have a car with a trunk and thats where the subs are at!.. no none walled, saz 3000d 3 yellow tops and 2 15's and my system sounds better with the windows down... is that outlaw? i dont know much about spl. thanks for any time that maybe spent schooling this SPL newbie

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i have a saz 3000d on 2 15 bl's in a trunk and im knockin doors down. i personaly feel that depending on the amp, 2500 watts may not be enough power to FULLY run those subs, i know it will make them sound good, but to push them to the limit. on the other hand, those Q's on 2500 watts will be matched better in my opion, but im nobody. also, with that much current you know that you must do some upgreads on your SUV right? what kinda amp are you gonna run?

me too im used to the 500 amp draw of a goliath, but with tha saz 3000 it has so much power and so little draw, and cool as a [email protected]

keeping in mind I don't want my car to rattle, I don't want to feel like someone is punching me in the back, I don't want my component speakers overpowered, and I don't want to 'thump and boom

How did you figure this? To the Topic starter: 1 run of 1/0 connecting front batteries to back will be fine. 1 run meaning, 1 positive and 1 negative. VS money you'll spend on the extra, wont really help you, in your situation. well i may have to think about that, currently i have the one run of 0 gauge for the + and i have 2 runns of 2/0 gauge ground in the rear on the frame. and the big three , and im running hard, and its giveing me nothing but power mad mad power to my subs, i guess i should do a run of - to the front. i guess it wont hurt

i sure do friend. im gonna look into the nightshadeshere soon. so i got my me saz 3000 d today, while tuning i tripped my circut breaker, so im glad i had one between the amp and the cells, i got it tuned by ear best as i will today, i was worried about not having enough power with the three yellow tops and only 1 run of 0 gauge, but with the nastiest bass song i could find i was only dropping from 14.3 to 13.9 so i guess i have plenty of power! jacob again your a mad man! i love your mind and its crations. gain half way, remote at half, lowest sub sonic setting, no bass control, @1ohm. ran hard for 20 mins it was as warm as my jl 300/4 and its just pushing 2 sets of passive type r comps! i know ewwww type r

ok im a little said im some where in the range of 13.9 14.2while my car is running. and im 12.3 with the car off. i wanna be higher.. what must i do. 200 amp h/o alt 3 yellow tops. big 3 1 run of 0 gauge 3x300 amp circut breaker

the first ran i made i ordered 30 foot 0 gauge red and 15 foot 0 gauge of blue.. from two diffrent places. i got the red it was a 0 gauge,, but when i got the blue, it was thicker... the inside wire was much bigger.. but the over all size of the insulation was thiner.... either way oi had to buy 2/0 ends for the blue, and 1/0 ends for the red....... messed with my head... im gonna make another run of the red, and see what it do!

that is correct sir. and i play a little here and there.. but i ordered alot of stuff so that i can play hard... this car is not my daily driver i have a company truck. so thats why progress is so slow. now the summer is comming and i gotta be ready! i was thinking if i make a few more runs and a few more yellow tops or even some powermasters. that i could bring my numbers up. i am gonna make a few more runs of 0 gauge, and see if that helps me. i had also thought about gettingf a dual alt set up. with one of the alts being 16 volts. and make a 16 volt system for my amps.. also getting another saz 3000d and getting some 15 btls, or nightshades, but thats all just thought for now...... im never happy with bass... im somthing like tha tool man taylor.... HUHUHUHU MORE POWER HUHUHUH

ok 2 things run in my head........ no audiobuhn secondly.... i dont think you have airspace in that trunk for 2 btl... or 2 bls. o yeah... and hifonics has done be dirty many times. your gonna need more yellow tops for a sundown 3000 or a hifonics

i tryed to get price once from ohio.. and thay never emailed back never called me back there are iraggis on ebay.