jonbearsmt

what kinda car

i never liked alpine amps.

sealed allways worked great for me with the jl w3 and w6's

there you go. and i never said beat..i said tap.

thay are soft.. loosen the bolt and tap it down. it should work.. thats why i use...

Innovative Rides - Houston, TX - (713) 560-9153 - E-MAIL thay are a sundown dealer. im sure thay can hook it up

yeah no shit. i lived in fla for 11 years.... the sheets feel wet when you go to bed.

awwww... like a child hood nick name.

Ding, nailed it again.... WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE,..... HE JUST SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF YOU AND YOU SAID HE MADE YOUR POINT His point is the perception that the BTL has of needing 2k watts to function, and Hayes feels that the lower power handling less efficient woofer would be louder. i now understand that

Ding, nailed it again.... WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE,..... HE JUST SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF YOU AND YOU SAID HE MADE YOUR POINT His point is the perception that the BTL has of needing 2k watts to function, and Hayes feels that the lower power handling less efficient woofer would be louder. i now understand that

buddy... did you read the past 5 pages?

i remember the sirens going off all times of night when i lived in ft reily, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO world war two alerts

see you knew... yeah thats right

i used to know one of these, and after i sold it.. a few people here said thay would have bought it.... well i have the chance to get another one... does anyone have an idea how how many watts at its lowest ohm load... and an idea of what that load maybe

how do you like those crunch GP3000d-PRO's? vids?

the first one was the btl 18 and the second was the ssd 18.

Fs: 00.0 Hz | 00.0 Hz Re: 0.7 Ohms/coil | 1.5 Ohms/coil Qms: 0.00 | 0.00 Qes: .00 | .00 Qts: .00 | .00 Mms: 000g | 000g Cms: 0.00mm/N | 0.00mm/N Sd: 1210cm^2 | 1210cm^2 Vas: 00.0 l | 00.0 l Spl: 00.0dB 1W/1m | 00.0dB 1W/1m Bl: 00.0 N/A | 00.0 N/A Xmax: 16mm * | 16mm * Rms: 2000W * | 2000W * Sealed box: N/A cuft | N/A cuft Ported box: 5-10cuft | 5-10cuft Sub OD: 18.500

son of a bitch. sorry guys:D

well i feel like i learned somthing, and i wanna learn more about it... bko your right i have told people not to get the btl because thay only wanted to run a 1000 watts. thats true... when someone ask about a btl i feel like thay should know it takes power... and it takes power to make power. i donno if im projecting my thoughts well. efficiency is somthing i need to learn more about as i said, one time that i tested my thoughts, jl 500/1 on a hifonics goliath 3200 watt 12 and then again on a jl w6 15's 600 watts peak or so jl was much louder. so it was efficiency and efficiency only? nothing to do with RMS

Don't take me the wrong way. I'm a guy who has a pair of XXX18s and 5KW rms in my living room.. But I also see a lot of misinformation spread all the time, and this is one of those times. We are here to help each other, best way to do that is to get the facts straight when you give people advice. And saying a BTL needs more power to be any louder than any othe FI sub, is, well.... misinformation... then why dont you run 500 watts to your xxx's? why are you running 5k to them? I don't want to take the words out of 95's mouth or try to represent him, but I believe the point he's getting at is that you don't NEED 5000 watts. At 500 watts the BTL should still be the loudest of the FI bunch because of its higher efficiency. However you can obviously get even louder with the BTL due to its higher power handling than the rest. Which is also why he has 5k on his XXX's. He doesn't NEED it, he WANTS it to get even louder. ok, but i cant understand how btl can be louder then any of the other subs on 500 watts. the way i would understand it is that if you get the rms of the subs closer to the output of the at 500 watts. that the rms sub would be louder then the underpowered. and im not just pondering thoughts, i have done it.. i have owned many many types of subs and amps. 500 watts on a 3200 watt rms sub was not louder then 300 watts on a 500 watt rms sub. UNELSS YOUR TELLING ME THAT I DONT UNDERSTAND efficiency and in that case you are right. and i am wrong... and then i will say sorry to mike and anyone else... but i will have to buy a btl. and test that for my self.

ok.. i may still not be understanding this, all i see is ONE MORE person DOING ONE THING.. and saying another.\\ cause you cant be telling me all this was just making a point you dont HAVE TO RUN big power.

Don't take me the wrong way. I'm a guy who has a pair of XXX18s and 5KW rms in my living room.. But I also see a lot of misinformation spread all the time, and this is one of those times. We are here to help each other, best way to do that is to get the facts straight when you give people advice. And saying a BTL needs more power to be any louder than any othe FI sub, is, well.... misinformation... then why dont you run 500 watts to your xxx's? why are you running 5k to them?

that was not the question.

Why? Because I'm kind of new here, but one thing I have noticed, pretty much daily are quotes like this- "BTL will need more power which means more electrical upgrades which means blah blah blah" About 10-20 young guys (and girls) really interested in audio who really want to learn get a little dumber every time something like this is posted... LETS DO THIS OVER AGAIN THEN fine get a btl and run 500 watts on it and see how you like it

Ding, nailed it again.... WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE,..... HE JUST SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF YOU AND YOU SAID HE MADE YOUR POINT