jonbearsmt

take away from the whole idea no... alot more work.... yup. you do the same steps. its just gonna cost you alot more wire then a normal big three.

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...c=19640&hl= this is a STEAL>

BOOOOOOOO

very true.... there is a HUGE diffrence between a box with a slot in it or a holes.... and a tuned box made for YOUR sub. and a box has alot to do with sound imo. and try looking at the sae 1000.... its a great amp

i think what your after is a FULL sound..... perhaps somthing in the SQ area.... its gonna be a long road. try and narrow your goals down. and share with us your music taste, and perhaps a goal. IMO. it sounds like you would enjoy a Q on full range

so you would punch steve meade in the face? he does that all the time. he only films him self setting his FRIENDS car alarms off....... from what i see steve hits the open road to let it wang..... or a empty parking lot. and sure he lets it knock for tha fans at the store or where ever....... but i highly doubt his dreams were to set out to set peoples alarms off..... or maybe im wrong.

i mean.. all i can tell you is to save money.. come up with a goal and a budget. say your gonna spend 450 on an amp..... well while you save 450 up.. shop around... look at DB-r's site a great place to pick up a sundown amp by the way... check ebay... i love sundown.. but shop around. maybe a nice kicker is inline for you.. or a jl slash series... but as i stated.. from the sounds of it you maybe happy with a hifonics.. im just asking you not to short change your self or your system for price and price only. there is a man on here that has a van that you should shit if sat in it.... somthing like 24 15's and 6 saz 3000d's.. the guy is a waiter from what i recall.... he knows what he wants.. he saves for it.. and he hunts those deals buddy. NOW GO OUT THERE GET IT.

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good.... im glad your not using it... you have had problems with it.. you just didnt know!!!!..... if you would have had a larger wire.. you would have more power...... and no one ever has a problem with thair small power wire untill its onfire and your crying... then its a HUGE problem...

AQ amps are capable of working all the way down to 8.5v from what i've been told which is insane why the hell would YOU be intrested in that??? that info is for other kinda of people then you. and your looking in the wrong places for amps if your paying msrp. buy a hifonics amp if you wish... you will prolly like it alot. just do one thing. just keep in mind that those amps are over rated... so when you read it... and it says 1200 watts dont think that it will put out that amount, and dont get mad if you have to buy a few hifonics amps along the way. thats what i stated up top. you can either buy 3 cheap amps in the long run... and spend 800 bucks.... or spend 450 once.. and be happy with your power out put and your reliabilty.

what i ment was... last thru 5 years of level of pleasure...... not 5 years of oparation... like aww my amp is fryed. 5 years.. then i wanna step up to a bigger amp because my wants in a sub have changed 5 time in 5 years... does that make any sence?

whats the question.

indeed.. you DONT HAVE TO clip the amp.. you do out of want... the bl will sound fine with a non clipped 1000 watts to it. i keep seeing you say "waste money on a amp" lemme ask you this. if you buy a GREAT amp... and it last you 5 years. and you never have to buy a "bigger" one. and its able to stay with you while you grow thru subs... was it a waste then? buy right once... never buy again... a little somthing i have learned in my 25 years of life. o yeah.. .and WHEN you buy right... it gives you the option of selling that amp when you need more down the road to help with the cost or a larger amp..... IE. buy a sundown 1500... and when your ready to upgread to a saz 3000d.... you have a POOL of people that will buy it.... OR!... have a legacey that the pawn shop wont giver you 20 bucks for.... its your money.. and your option.

odd wood for a box imo.

i think he posted his pics and a vid.. .i think... i dont think i will make it to heat wave... as i must work ALL THE TIME.... but im only 20 mins south of austin.. in a little river town called san marcos... if you wanna come down ill show you ....

well lets see some pics and some vids mang

that sucks man.... i knew iad not seen him around here in a while.... i thought maybe just some project yall were doing was sucking his time up.... well you have a team mate down here by austin! i have been tossing and turning at night trying to make my mind up on the nightshades. cant wait till you get yours!

damn that sucks about his work... your set up looks like its gonna be grand. you have those saz's straped? by custom im guessing those nightshades have the recone?

im looking to talk to the guys that currently run nightshades. questions for the guys with the stock sub (not been reconed yet) 1 how much power are you runing to them? 2 daily or burps 3 share with me how you like it, questions for the guys with the upgreaded recone. 1 how much power are you running. 2. how do you like the stronger spider? 3 tell me how much more you love the sub after the recone. the reason being, i want to run 2 nightshade 15's on a pair of straped saz 3000ds i have never blown a sub runing daily, and i dont wanna start now! or 1 saz at 16 volts. i was thinking to run two BTLs. but i would really like to stay sundown ONLY>

nick is a stand up sweet heart, and one of the most honest people around. and hes a friggin workaholic. not only would i buy somthing from him, i would prolly lettem date my sister.

yeah you did IMO. you should have went with BL's or BTLs but from the sounds of it your gonna blow them no matter what. you send a dirty signel to any sub long enough your gonna blow it... lemme guess... +6 bass on your head unit bass boost on the amp all the way up..... gain all the way up...... come on. i play my BLs hard when ever i ride.. and when i show off.. i dont shange anything... i just turn it up... its been almost a year no problems. people that own audio shops in my area say i have the loudest car thay have ever heard..... and the third loudest behind suv's of course. recone them... and lets talk about your settings.... if you dont like the way your setting sound with the Q's perhaps diffrent subs are in order. and i donno what amp your running. butmaybe a new amp.. and some self control. o yeah.. just a heads up... NEVER admit abuse then turn around and ask about your warrenty!. either way..... lets get you strighted up.... got any pics of vids of that show you went to. or your car and set up?

some people use the sax class to drive subs, thats why it come with the remote gain like all the others, one thing to think about, i am gonna install mine for my SAX series for when i meter my subs i can just cut my remote gain on my sax so its not screaming, and i dont have to unplug anything.

and what other subs have you ran

saz 1500d sundown.

i thought thats just the way those subs run... everytime i hear a pair thats what i hear.