Raymond Farmer

Hey bigjon whats up!!

Any final word?

I don't get what cranking amps would have to do with car audio. You should be looking at amp hours or ah. Cranking amps were more of a deal when every car had huge v8 engines and were hard to crank over. Cranking amps are very important, thats how much current the battery is capable of producing for 30 seconds. Very important thing to know especially in a competition situation You are absolutely correct. The most important things in car audio, as far as batteries are concerned are 1. Cold cranking amps/Max amps (all the same) 2. Internal resistance (how fast a battery can discharge its power. A good Internal resistance is between 1.8 - 3 mOhms. Anything higher, requires too much work for the amp to draw power, anything lower, can cause the amp to drain power to fast and not keep a constant power output.) In short, amp hour (ah) don't mean squat. Ah is only good for telecom purposes. Example. A battery with a CCA of 900 amp/internal resistance of 2.2/ah of 90 vs a battery with a CCA of 900/internal resistance of 4/ ah of 102, I put my money on the battery with the lower internal resistance and lower ah every time.

Any up date?

I'd love to see some crazy 8s numbers from you Ray Thanks! Seriously...after the holidays I can come down to your shop, for a weekend and build a crazy 8 set up.

Nice job!! But Jacob, dont make me come out of retirement and rip your azz up!! LOL!!! J/K, nice work dude!!

When is the estimated arrival date?

when will the special order 8s be shipped (spl coils)? whats up ray!!!!!! its big jon from texas!!!! just a little FYI ray was the first to school me to some SUNDOWN and to SSA.... thanks ray!!!! still doing BIG things with little woofers i see... WHOOP!! Glad to hear it. And thanks for the shout out!! I turned a lot of guys on to sundown, but some don't have the decency to admit it like you!! I also got a couple of guys to become dealers out here. Still rep'n for Jake. He's kool, with a great product and great customer service!!

when will the special order 8s be shipped (spl coils)?

No disrespect to any one but, why is it that when something is out of someone or anyones price range, its not price fairly?!?! Hell I cant afford a Maybach, but does that mean it is priced too steep? No, it just means that I cant afford it!!

Do a pair of 4500's!!!

NICE! Any Panda can do that! It's a Panda! lol (lol) Thats what you think!!!(lol) At finals of 2008 in Indiannapolis, a panda was in Street A , quiet as a church mouse! Pandas and crx's are the loudest street vehicles you can have, but just like any other car, it will take a lot of work to get them there!!

Now I need to say something. First, there is always a critic out there about everything that is done. And it is usually given by people who never make it pass first base. This type of so called modification, has been done in dbdrag for years. In alot of CRX's there has been some sort of change in the battery section by elite Street Class dbdraggers 1. Brad Faggard 2. Terry Brocks 3. Team Neo Eric 4. Team Neo Vernon 5. Mike Sharitka 6.........So one and so on! As long as you dont make any modifications to the car, that will cause the interior space to decrease, you can do what you want. And also you can do cosmetic changes to the exterior or interior as to make the care have a better appearance. And also....I will challenge any one to check out that crx for any rule braking modifications. Cause I will tell you, if any one was at finals in 2008, When I broke the 155.4 mark in street A, those mofos removed my panels, removed the headliner and checked for batts in the amps. And when I hit a score of 155.9 with one 12, at a 3x event in 2009, they checked it again......and again nothing!! And this little remark....... because your not allowed to beat the fender in the get a bigger battery under the hood! makes you wonder what other rules they broke to get the big numbers??? Totally wrong!!! Ya need to know your rules before you open your mouth!!!

What amp are you running? If you have a good electrical system and the amp can run below 1 ohm, I don't see a problem running 3 dual 4 sa8's and the amp seeing 0.66 ohms or 3 dual 2's at 1.33 ohms. If you are running the SAZ model amp! If I am wrong someone please enlighten me!

I dont know much about audiopipe amps, but I would like to say, a higher ohm load does not always mean more effeciency. You would have to do a current draw test to see which is more effecient. Example: 100 amp current draw gives off 900 watts @ 4 ohms; another amp with a 100 amp current draw gives off 900 watts at 2 ohms, which is more efficient. They are the same, when one amp is not 2 or 1 ohm stable. Now if the 4 ohm amp is not 2 ohm stable it cant give you more power. Now with both amps having the same current draw and the 4 ohm amp gives you 950 watts and the 2 ohms amp gives you 850 then you can say the 4 ohm amp is more efficient. Basically you have to compare amps input to its output, of amps in the SAME POWER CLASS to say which is more effecient! Or check voltage drops and power output, but the box rise have to be consistant with both amps.