tantric sounds

congrats again on your results from bass battles finals and it was nice seeing you again. top notch competitor with a top notch attitude.

im still on here just don't hang out much....lol....

we have yet to build an spl sub but next year I am contemplating designing one for the team guys that keep asking. the ethos 15 for 350 is a great bargin for sure.

welcome to the forum......rebellion on the river is next month in Baton Rouge and then in june Scrapin on the coast

The black ones aren't produced anymore. That's the biggest reason the price keeps going on

yes that is the vibraflex from overseas and yes we sell it

Look man, there's no way possible for any of us on here to do any sort of real testing on an amplifier. Testing an amp with a resistor bank still isn't even good for a general idea. These tests are 0 worthless.Sad that your sarcastic statement is the most accurate thing you've posted in the thread. Trying to make amends would be to actually do what was discussed and think about the test. Backpedaling is not doing that. Probably better you quit if you are too stubborn to actually think. Good luck running a business that way.I don't need to backpedal or think about the testing as I have said several times and obviously you're not intelligent enough to understand what I posted. I guess to come on here and explain to you again that I don't support the testing and or results again is futile as its obvious you can't comprehend it the many times I have done it already. But I could always bring the chalkboard in here and treat you like a grade school child and put it in a larger format and break the words down for you but doubtful you would understand it then. You aren't man enough to admit when you do something wrong even when you get caught and called out publicly so there again your character remains at the bottom of the barrel. Good luck with your ventures forward and have a good life. I'll continue on in this industry as I have for the past 26 years and making accomplishments as something that no one has seen from you...

Ok great now I've asked several questions that don't exist and the thread is still going sideways instead of forward. I've been called out but only made statements and proved where my can't read nor comprehend what's been written and called out his manhood that never got answered. Then try to make a mends to get to move forward on the tread to still be in the same spot. Wow...lol.... oh well good luck guys Im Out

Wouldn't it be better to educate the people instead of continuing on with saying the test is flawed. Seems like a better use of your time. Here we are once again bickering about the test that was given instead of using our time to move the subject forward instead of sideways. Makes more sense.

I wasn't defending anyone or anything if you read my posts. I was just making a point of instead of bashing anyone or any test it would be more tactfullnes to say that the results aren't interesting to you for the equipment used should have been x,y and zip parts and conducted this way to be more accurate. As far as taking this thread personally theres no way, but the direct attack on me about my product was uncalled for and unprofessional.

I don't think there is anything wrong with defending your opinion by any of these guys but tactfulness is lacking sometimes by all of us. We all need to stay on track instead of bickering about a set right or wrong. Looks bad for the whole forum.

Like ive stated plenty of times, I don't agree that the clamp are accurate samples of output power of an amplifier but im not going to attack the person unless I have viable information to back it up like the correct equipment to use to test correctly. Truth is is that their isn't a perfect way to test these amplifiers as is theres no perfect way to test speakers or spl as there are to many variables to be perfect. I ( like someone else stated ) remember plenty of discussions in my engineering courses that ended up like this thread has. Its not my place to give an equipment list of what was used to do the tests cause I don't personally do the testing. Everyone seems to like the new amp dyno but I can see where it can be off as well in testing. Im not taking anything away from anyone or any equipment as long as everyone can understand that there are variables in everything with testing so take testing as something with variables. I will concede that M5 has viable points as long as the understanding is there that there are more viable points out there. We don't all have to agree all the time and I will apologize for anything that I write that comes across the incorrect way. Everyone here on this forum deserves to have educated threads and this one has gone way off course. In the future can we all try and work together for the better instead of bickering, that's all im asking.

that's why its been stated several times that he doesn't claim the tests to be perfect but to be used as a general idea. I hope after this thread is done that people learn how to truly comprehend what they read before they attack people and make themselves look worse than they should. This is supposed to be an informative thread not a bash on something without giving anything positive to further the education of the people that don't understand thoroughly the subject at hand

Here we go talking about misinterpretation...lol...so now we all know that you can misread or misinterpret or just not understand what you read as was so shown last night. It takes a real man to admit his faults and a real coward to hide from his faults. Where do you lay?

im sure you will make her pretty. as far as the score goes we know what she is capable of . hehe. looks like you might break some hearts...lol...

man this truck has been everywhere...

First off show me where I said it was a valid test or that I agreed with it. I only pointed out the fact that you spout off why its invalid with no science of why and what to use to make it valid. I am glad you continue on with this as it shows you can not read as well as well as interpret what has been posted. I am sorry that you want to try and make people look bad but by doing so just like in this case you just continue to give this forum a bad name. Its a perfect example of why others talk so bad about this forum even after its owned by 2 guys that work their asses off to keep great customer service for their customers. Its a shame....lol....

im glad you like to misconceive everything that is written and argue so much. its a perfect example of being closed minded. there is more than one way to skin a cat. seems as you would rather be condescending upon people than anything else. thanks again for proving my point for me. I hope you are not the hero for anyone on this forum as it would simply be self condescending upon themselves.

Its funny that if I wanted to I could get the same measuring equipment that zenon uses for just over 10k including two 400 amp power supplies directly from the same company they got theirs from. my point was he uses several fluke and ue meters all which are 1% tolerance by manufacture stipulations. and incase you don't know both ue and fluke are the same company both of which are owned by matco tools. Im not here to argue but as I stated before I believe tfade is just getting an idea of the power and has never claimed itt was or is an exact measurement of the output of the amplifier. His testing methods are consistant and he has plenty of amperage and voltage to back up any amp. I believe everyone is forgetint the fact that he has stated many times its not exact and is meant for just an idea of power.

Being a business in this market I'm curious.. I don't think you guys make amps but let's say you did. You spend a shit ton having it properly tested and this guy goes telling everyone it does xx and spreads it like wild fire. Would you question his methods then? Im with you there but on the flipside, why go through the trouble of multiple people questioning the method with no input on what would be the proper pieces to use. it would be the same as going to the optometrist and him telling you your glasses are wrong but not giving you the information of why it is wrong and how to fix your glasses.

Instead of talking about how inaccurate tfades test equipment is lets think about telling him what you might think he needs to have more accurate testing. There has been no talk of this equipment and or better equipment. I can bet I can go to korea with an amp in hand and go to all the manufacturers and put the same amp on their testing equipment and get slightly different results. I believe tfade is using the best that he can get his hands on and being as fair as he can. We all know its not perfect or 100% accurate but it gives an idea and that is his intent. All the bashing isn't going to help him be better. If you guys have the knowledge of better testing equipment then tell him instead of just going on and on about how his equipment isn't up to par.

if he contacts me directly at [email protected] and ask me for specs ill gladly give them to him. I have never held back info from anyone that asks me for it. sorry for your confusion.

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Your point was taken and my point has been made. My skin is thick as I have been in this industry for a little while.

Thank you sir , that's what I was explaining in my last post. As far as the degrading remarks from one of the busiest posters you have on this forum , then that reflects bad for this forum. Like I tried to explain before , I don't want to come here and argue and have no issues in corrective criticism , but in the same fairness to be condescending isn't the way to deal with it.