shizzzon

when used properly, that 400A rating is probably rated for short burst current.

when do u all wanna redo the tests? I just crank the gains to max and play at the same volume level.. whichever one enellz was runnin at. I can sit here and say that the Sundown is more than likely cleaner than the audiopipe but we are about power... Hell if u want, get ben back out there and he'll do a meter for both amps to see which of the 2 meter higher.

nope, can't get my amp out of the car... Besides if i could easily, i could meter it easily. That amp comparison test was already done anyway a while back. I don't know efficiency outcome but i do know the Sundown put out more power which i knew it would anyways.

we were talkin about testin an AQ3500D and postin it up here but the way how mine are mounted.. it's tricky to get any readings off of it. If i do get a test off of it, i'll sure post it up here.

have u tried sub back\up\forward and port to the side?

no, port area is port area. You can use 25sqin of port per cube instead of 16 for daily if u want too.. it's just not necessary. Since the meter can read changes in pressure down to 0.01db, it's necessary. For those who compete a lot, we can distinguish changes with our own ears by about 2db, that's a huge difference. Since larger ports may increase spl, it may not do it enough for our ears to notice a difference so it's not used for daily use.

i wouldnt suggest the 12 even sealed based on the dimensions he posted because the sub would have to be mounted facing up or down firing and the amount of room between the magnet and the wall would be too close in my opinion just like the sub would be too close to the top or bottom of the trunk at the same time. Even a 10" is too large unless you can go 11" high.

since that shares the same look as an suv, you should do subs up, port back. We got a guy doin a 150.3 with 2 15s and a 3000w amp right now in an suv so it's easily possible with a little work.

powerbass is dual channel but internally bridged so actually just single channel. While it is true that the audiopipe does it's max at 2ohms rather than 1 ohm, u must also consider this- When we tested these 3 amps, the sundown AND powerbass had a nominal 1 ohm load(0.8DCR). The audiopipe had a nominal 2 ohm load(1.6ohms). so the test is fair between those 2 amps. I have seen that the higher amounts of power a sub is given(as long as it's not into power compression or excessive heat build up), the lower the impedance rise is. So by saying that, it's not uncommon to use a 2kw amp and have a rise from 0.7 to 2.3 ohms then turn right around and hookup a 4kw amp and rise from 0.7 to 1.8ohms...

it is a 2 channel class d amp. 1500w x 2 at 1 ohm on each channel or 3000w @ 2 ohms bridged.

OK, here is perfect directions- Once you are in Kentucky, u can look at the map below to see where to go from there off 264. If coming from New Albany, just get off Cane run South exit and stay on it until it turns in to Greenbelt then follow the map below. If coming in to Kentucky from the other bridge, u gonna need to hit 64W or 264W, whichever is first until u hit Exit Cane Run South. Here is zoomed out map- Here is a close up of the place- You will notice that once you turn on to Intermodal, You have reached the ASUS building, the Main AsUS Tech Support and Repair center in America. This is the building on the left corner. You will be making your second left as shown in the pic which is the back of the warehouse. Once you see cars rather than semi trucks, that's us. I drive the graphic, detailed blue Scion tC. I will let everyone know the meetup will start at 12:30 that's commin. I originally said 1pm but i'll move it back 30 minutes so the people who normally show up late will get there by 1pm at the latest, lol.

We have meetups in our area quite often and a few SSA members are commin down to visit durin this time and lookin to see if anyone else wants to come and hang out for a while. Roll Call- shizzzon ben hemp Josh Shacklette (2009 AS2 World Champion) Enellz phi porkchop rattlebox317 Possibles- Darren (owner of dbeezcaraudio.com) Troy local MECA AS1 runner Possibly some non competitors... Looking for some more people to come out and meetup with us. Just wanna meet some of the SSA members on here and just kick it for a while, let me know. You might learn somethin, Plus you can get your ride metered for free if u show up because we have meters at every meet.

if u want sustained voltage or as close to it as possible, get a Fluxcap by Harrison Labs. They are intended to pull a little current out of your electrical system to maintain a preset voltage output. It can do this as long as you don't continuously go over it's rated output. They make them in 50 or 100A outputs.

i thought 8awg typically only handled around 67A

it's not just me, it's the boards. Asus and DFI and sometimes gigabyte use very good cooling methods on the northbridge and surrounding caps around the socket to allow for such insane levels of OCing.

this is going off topic, lol, but that's what i like about ASUS, DDR3-2000+ minimum and stable. I OCed a socket 775 before(my board actually) to over 1900MHz FSB one time and was stable for bout 2hrs at a time. I don't really know what the problem was at the time because the temps were too hot for 24\7 use. The board was only rated for 1333MHz FSB and OC stable to 1600MHz FSB, lol. I'm currently runnin it at 1772MHz FSB for almost a year without problems. Core voltage kinda high 1.32v but hey.. it's stable and runnin fine. When i tried to run it at 1.313v, the system would lock up one every 3 weeks in a perfect cycle.

what would u buy? A 65" LED TV or a 42" LED TV for $300 less?

i'm not fond of FoxConn's motherboards because I use Asus and have loved them for the last 7yrs i've been using their equipment. I've used their motherboards, video cards and monitors, never had a problem. I've read people who have with their boards... but i assume to believe that these users are inexperienced and are killing their boards through ESD and not knowing it. When building a more budget type setup, i prefer Biostar, Gigabyte or MSI (sometimes).

Ha, FoxConn makes iPhones and they are based out in china.... I guess iPhone users aren't gettin proper wattage out of their phones, lol

remember people, DbDrag is sealed too so those running in outlaw may typically see a 2-4db increase. Also, SPLScion- when u said tune 3hz below car peak and burp at that note... that doesnt make any sense. You should build the port to PEAK at the car's peak then play that note. THE ONLY time you should intentionally "overtune" a box and play at box's tuning is if you are attempting to restrict the subs movement due to the monsterous amounts of power being supplied.

well, if u are right, i havent read the entire log but i am assuming you are tryin to figure out why it rolls off so quick? I dont know.. but i'll see what happens when i say this- It may be tuned too low because... the box is in a volume that is too large for the expected outcome... Low pass set too low. Resonance peak in car is in the low 40s which is extremely exaggerating output before you audibly hear a "roll off."

Polyfill isn't like an option to fall back on if u make a mistake on a ported design, hehe. You CAN use polyfill in a ported box by lining it securely along the walls and NEVER loosely but it's not a valid option to fall back on. I'll show you my wall this saturday.. was hopin u could bring your setup down here so i could diagnose it,

The AP30001D is a 2 channel class d amp. 1500wx2 @ 1 ohm per channel or 3000w @2ohm bridged and 2000w @4ohm bridged.

if u lookin for cheap, get the AP30001D. At least i know this thing does it's rated 3000w and them some. If everybody remembers this weekend at the meet in Louisville, KY this saturday, I will be testing the efficiency differences between a sundown 3000d(~$525) and an Audiopipe AP30001D (~$320). Both of these amps are rated at 3,000w but differ greatly in price. The efficiency test is geared toward those running in MECA who are limited in fusing to see if it's beneficial enough to save the money and switch to Sundown to get more power out with the same current draw before your inline fuse pops. The sundown will be wired @1ohm which is rated to do 3000w and the audiopipe will be wired at 2ohm bridged which is rated at 3000w. Stay tuned later this weekend for the results.

actually, having enough straight forward comments from ///m5 has allowed me to be more straight forward toward some people who, as we have seen before, provide hardly any information and expect the best help possible. If they can't handle the tough life, then they leave or are not interested enough to learn. Now, what i would like to see is explanation of 1-sided forwarding comments. Having to discourage someone of an incorrect thought process or explanation should only be justified with an explanation rather than derrogative comments without answers that may be true... That's probably why many people look away and why this thread was even made. You can't know or learn without knowing or learning.