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I plan on starting to stay in SSA chatroom for the next upcoming days to answer any questions any of you may have about any of their products and anything else we will be doing in the near future so if you'd rather do it that way, i'll be over there! The group buy is a few orders short for another big discount... I'd recommend asking your local audio shops if they'd be interested in something like this too, just a thought. Once the group buy becomes "Dead" after several days, we may end it early so let's not hope that happens.

if u like it loud then it's for you. From my gatherings... u want it.

i ran one off 600w before and it still gets loud. We are just sayin the recommended power ratings are for the maximum power we would suggest, not what it wants.

I'm not for sure. MECA is- Amateur Street Street Modified Radical Basically- AS - car is off, can only use songs, no test tones, no more than 1 extra battery and VERY strict ruling about what material can be used in vehicle... no tape of any kind, no resin, foam, etc... TOTAL install must be in trunk and not protruding. Street - car can be on @no more than 2,000rpm, u can use test tones but install cant be past trunk but can use any type of material to build it and seal it. Modified - ANY mod behind B pillar(door jam) is legal, ANY MOD! unlimited charging capacity and voltage. Radical - Many mods in front of B pillar to certain extents (for the vehicles that prob will never be returned back to stock and be later found in a junkyard, lol) That's the basics. Pick what u like and u can get the specifics about all restrictions to that class.

A user requested to know this question- Can the software print out your logged SPL scores? Answer- At this time it cannot. However, I have gotten word that it is on the "to-do" list of updates to the software. Unlike Tlab software, SPL-Lab software is free to use and so are updates to the software. Updates to the software have been done frequently in the past so those who would like this feature may\will see it later on in the near future. Also, we now have 8 people down for the group buy. SSA Forum - * Bigrank916 - USB/LCD Meter * woodskilla - USB/LCD Meter * oscar r - USB Pro Meter * SexySoundLab - USB Meter Other Forums - * 01SpyderDb23 - USB Meter * 90TalonTSi - USB Meter ROE Forums - * djmatrix313 - USB/LCD Meter * lifesfordeath - USB/LCD Meter Total - 8 (Keep em comin.. the higher the number.. the cheaper the price)

i know my level4s could take 1750w rated power for about 42sec clipped before they would get real hot.

This is the WORST equipment choice ever.... If you were a N00b! Nice setup... curious as to how your XLs love that power. I know the A-Team burped a single XL off 8kw in Free-Air without any problems... and that's 8kw clamped, not rated. I just run the normal Level 4s.. Rusty tells me about how better the XLs are.. him and others have talked me into gettin a few, just gotta tear my wall down first to accommodate.

Calm down hehe let me tell you why it does that. Before i do, to whoever said to use peak hold on DMM with Hyperdynamics meter- That's not as accurate because in order for that meter to be equivalent to a TL, the reading has to remain steady for 1 full second. For a burst reading... it's not as accurate and yes when i use mine, i make sure it has a steady reading before i record any information from it. OK, now back to the SPL-Lab meter- For those that own a TL, you would know that the TL CAN do this as well. What you are seeing is the "noise floor" in the room. The TL software is set to be very strict at not showing any scores below 120db during a peak hold metering session. It specifically says on SPL-Lab's site that if you are getting measurements below 20hz, you can download the update to their software to suppress this noise and make the meter more accurate under that frequency range. It's possible it's reading something below 20hz or it's simply the noise in the background. Just with the TL, i'm sure you can suppress the readout on their meter too to not display anything below a certain threshold but won't know for certain until i have it in my hands. Remember, the meter is calibrated to be accurate between 120-175db. In all honesty, if you are really only planning on metering a vehicle whose output is under 130db, you do NOT need the SPL meter, you need the RTA meter as it ranges from 90-130db.

When we get ours. We will be doing numerous pressure testing with the Termlab, SPL-Labs and Hyperdynamics(MakeItLouder) so show how accurate they all are in both real time and peak hold. And possibly average SPL as well.

actually, there are 2 SSA members on here that will be doing reviews 1st so everybody will be gettin their view of it within the next couple weeks.

tuning below 35hz isn't recommended for AQ subs. I tuned to 38hz and could audibly drop to 32hz before it would start to roll off. Anything below 35hz tuning, the upper 40hz range would suffer. They are capable of dropping LOW while retaining higher tuning. That's why they recommend tuning in the mid to upper 30s. since u only have 4 cubes gross, 2 12s is a no go. I recommend this then- a single DC Level 5 12" off of at least 5kw. I hope he knows what he's doin with the volume control. People like thorshammer has ran these babies with over 10kw on tap daily per level 5 but it has to be clean power. They will get ungodly loud with crazy power but can smoke up quick if left with a dirty signal.... any sub will.

Better is AQ out of the 2. Even if the Hifonics does a couple hundred more watts, u'd never hear it! AQ has more direct customer service and i trust them more since i've ran there amps for a couple years now.

when u say 4 cubes NET to work with, i'm assuming u already know how the port will be installed. 2 AQ HDC3 12s off of 2 Audiopipe AP 30001Ds (6,000w) Make sure u get the Aluminum coiled versions = ~$1350 If built right, u can get loud with it. I was able to do 148s with 4,500w off of 2 of those 12s in a hatch tuned daily.

Kinda curious why u got rid of the wall. I'm not sayin bandpass isn't a bad choice, it should be more efficient actually but just curious. If you were using the same subs, what kinda power did you have available? I got a buddy that has a wall with basically the same sub, FI recones 2 18s doin 153s on 5kw or high 151s on music. His is tuned to peak at 36hz and capable of dropping to 18hz just fine. His wall is ridiculously large, prob 20cuft or so.

There's one in Hayward, Sacramento, San Diego and Orange

I'll be honest with you upfront- MECA is mostly based on the Eastcoast. The Commissioner, Steve Stern, actually setup some shows in CA and some have already happened this year! Here is the part that sucks- World Finals is held at only one place... typically in Tennessee. So, for people who live on the other side of the country... it may not be worthwhile to compete in this sanction if you are planning on attending world finals. Now, you can still hold State records in this sanction, but world finals is usually always held in Tennessee and is a 2day event. If still interested, let me know. You still have IASCA and USACI to look into.

Wouldnt it be one of the biggest ironies in Car Audio to have the tlab replaced with this meter in some sanctions to save cost on hosting shows and start paying competitors higher cash prizes or just the capability to host more shows from the average joe hosting company? OF course it isn't as easy as that as sanctions have metering rules but still... it could happen.

Yea, i'll admit, i bought one of those Hypderdynamics meters from MakeItLouder. The one you use a multimeter then gotta calculate the pressure level based on the volt out reading. It's a great little meter for simple things but you also gotta realize- In competition, a pressure meter cycles in 1 sec intervals and takes an average reading of everything in 1 sec intervals. When i use that Hyperdynamics meter, the multimeter refreshes rapidly so u can't get a realistic score when trying to measure very high pressure levels because the multimeter won't stay constant if you are peaking your install. the only option was a termlab... well, not anymore It's like a blessing from car audio heaven. If you've ever heard me rant before, Tlab's interface box is what kills me about their setup. It's that box that gets damaged more than anything else. People draggin it around, droppin it off tables, etc... That thing is a $300 replacement piece. What is there to replace with the SPL-LAB setup? IT's just the meter... direct to your computer. Or direct to a handheld viewer for those that don't wanna bring their laptop with them. Only thing to really replace is the meter.. we all know how durable these things are.

Like i said, we'll see how this group buy goes. Once we get our vendor status completed with SSA later on, we may do another group buy which should be bigger and then we may look into doing that... or we do it after this one... But, like any market, there must be a large interest in it or not worth it at this time. Just like anything, it takes a large bulk order to remain dealer status and we have to just see what happens...

lol, just replied to your wrong thread post, we too fast for each other.

i know what u mean. I posted this in the group buy thread just now but this is new to the US public. Once it becomes common product, WE MAY very well start stocking these in decent quantities for the US market, but at this time... little by little.

If it ever becomes a common thing for LARGE requests of these meters, we may start stocking these here in the USA so there is no long shipping delays but now is not that time because we just started the business relation and the meter is still new to the US public market. But by that time, we would be part of SSA's vendor program by that time and would be offering a LOT more than just meters... Don't worry, we plan on offering lots of things.. this is the only thing u will see for the time being until we get our things situated and officially become part of SSA's vendor program.

Yes you can and i'll say this again so nobody is confused- When the time comes, you can pay with Paypal or Money Order. When the group buy ends, the group buy list will be forwarded to them for revision to finalize pricing. Because they "might" run out of inventory, the pricing i posted in this group buy is if everybody bought the same thing in a sense. IF they gotta go into production and make a bunch of different things, pricing "might" increase... So, they will give me the concrete pricing once they get the list. IF the pricing is changed, i will make everybody aware before money is requested. I'm not expecting it too but i want everybody to know so it's not something spontaneous that happens after the group buy is over. Don't wanna surprise somebody. If the pricing remains the same, or if everybody agrees on the new price(if there is one, which there shouldnt be) THEN money will be requested. Once all money has been sent, ALL orders will be sent off and will take approximately 3-4 weeks to receive the meter. Approximately 2 weeks to get it past customs and into the states and 1 week max for delivery back out. I give them a 1 week leniency period if they gotta go back into production because they already know how many people are on the list right now. So to sum it all up, no money will be requested until after the group buy is over and Paypal or Money Order is accepted.

Late to the party? yea, lol. As soon as i got off work, that's when i seen it available. It's hard to keep in contact daily with a company who has a several hour difference in time than I do while at work. But i make do just fine.

the interface box alone is $300. The meter is $200. They give you a carrying case! WOW!!! OMG! I think they also charge licensing for their software, right? SPL-Lab's software is free. SPL-Lab's uses no interface box which drastically reduces cost.