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    GCON box size question

    I've had a 15 inch ICON in my old explorer for the past two years and loved every second of it. But that car is now gone. I'm planning on getting a GCON that will go in a mustang. Obviously the trunk isn't nearly as big in a mustang, so I'm debating between a 10 inch or a 12 inch. The specs say a 12" optimal ported box is 3 cubic feet, and 2.5 cubic feet for the 10". These are bigger recommended box sizes than the icons of the same size...so why do the GCONs need such a big box? Just wondering cause I'm playing with limited room!
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    Return/Exchange?

    Well I could get a second battery but the problem is right now I cant really fit a second battery in my engine compartment like I want to. I'm realizing now it would be only a little more if I got one big battery instead of trying to make it work with my original Die Hard battery
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    Return/Exchange?

    I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this. But I bought an XS Battery not too long ago and havent used it at all, its just been sitting in the box and I was hoping to either return it or even better exchange it and put forward extra money for a bigger XS battery. Am I able to do this?
  4. Yeah output I definitely notice a difference, that's not what I'm wondering about. What I'm confused and wondering about is that I don't really notice much difference in terms of quality really...but that might just be because I haven't heard enough set ups and don't have a trained ear
  5. Ok well my main point is that I've had kicker cvrs (sealed box), w6v2, and now an icon and the biggest difference I hear is output...as far as quality they all seamed to be "good" sounding subs to me but I know that everyone says kicker sound horrible but to me they don't seem far off from my other two (although my memory could be off because I had those like a year ago or more)
  6. I have tested it on some of my favorite metal songs and I'm surprised at how good it sounds and how it keeps up with the bass drums. As far as for the bass being louder than my high and mids...I would say it is but I kinda like it like that...although I know that's not really an "SQ" setup I'm using a Sundown SAX 1200d amp for the icon and used it for the w6
  7. Well the icon is a 15 inch and I'm using the design from SSA's site for an optimal ported box so it's 4 cubic feet after displacement I think and tuned to 30hz although my couple mess ups may have messed with the tuning maybe...? For the W6 it was a 12 and I think it sounded pretty good in that box honestly. My main complaint was that the output was lacking, it just wasn't very loud and the guy I sold it too complained of the same thing lol. I want to say that the icon hits low notes better because there are certain times in songs I'm surprised by bass notes I'm not used to hearing lol but I still don't feel like it's that big of a difference. I'm guessing the box was around 1.25 cubes and the port was pretty thin but this is all off memory. Oh and it was made of 3/4 inch mdf board if that helps
  8. Oh no the jl was definitely in a prefab box...I bought it from a shop, it was a generic box. I mean the guy claims he doesn't carry junk boxes and his prefab boxes are really good but I'm betting any shop will say about the same about their prefab boxes
  9. Hello I'm new here and have been into car audio for a little while. My question may seem dumb and maybe its because I haven't heard enough setups or any bad subs...but I'm wondering how it is you determine what a good sounding sub and install sounds like? Just a little background...I bought an Icon recently and built the box using the design on SSA's website and I think I did a great job for only my second box. The only two real problems were that I accidentally made the cutout for the sub 2 inches to the left in the center and it was supposed to be offset, and the second is that the port is somewhat crooked at the corner and is off by about an 1/8th of an inch. I think it sounds really good but at the same time I can't tell much of a difference as to when I had a w6 in a prefab box not too long ago. When I say I can't tell a difference I mean in SQ cause output and I think the lows are much better and I do get more punch from the Icon which I like. My main question is that everyone talks about how the difference from prefab boxes to custom boxes is immense but I feel like the difference is not that great...so is this just me not knowing difference in quality or what? Sorry for the long read
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