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Thanks for the help guys. I just ordered 2 12" SSDs this morning, along with an SAZ-1500D from SSA. I'll let you know how it turns out.

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Honestly, I was leaning towards this option. My only concern is that it wouldn't be loud enough for me. Can you tell me why you would vote for this option?

I should have in my possession a SAZ-1500D soon and so I need to get some sub(s) for it. I have been thinking either a 12" BL (ported) or 2 12" SSDs (sealed). I'm honestly mostly concerned with getting loud, but I don't want it to sound like utter crap either. It's going to go in a trunk, so I'm trying to keep the space used down to a minimum (under 3 cubes if I can help it). Which of these would be best for overall loudness? I have no experience with ported setups so I don't know how it would sound, but from what I've read, I think I should go ported. I listen to mostly rap, so SQ is of little importance. I'm also open to other suggestions - I was considering a single AA Havoc before SSA stopped selling them. Thanks for the help.

I had thought about the Icons, but I thought I heard they are out of stock until August. Unfortunately, I'm not that patient and will probably be ordering something in the next week or two. So I think I'm going to go with one of my original choices - either a single 12" BL (ported) or 2 12" SSDs (sealed). I only have experience with sealed woofers, so I don't even know what a ported box would sound like. But from what I hear, I might enjoy the sound of a ported woofer. I understand that it's install dependent, but do 2 12" SSDs sealed have the capability of getting louder than a single 12" BL ported, in ideal boxes?

So I plan on taking advantage of the SAZ-1500D sale this month and I am going to need to decide which sub(s) to purchase as well. I'm looking for a little guidance in this respect. I own a trunk car so I'd like to keep the size of the box down if at all possible - I'm thinking under 3 cubes. So that probably leaves me with either one 12" ported, or 2 12" sealed. I guess I could do 1 15" sealed too. I listen to mostly rap, so SQ is of little concern, but I don't want it to sound like complete crap either, at least to me. I have been thinking of either a 12" BL or 2 12" SSDs. However, I'm definitely not firm with these choices. I'm looking for recommendations. Again, looking for something to get loud, but not a fart box either. I'd like to retain some musicality I suppose for those rare times when I do listen to other music. Thanks guys. Once I get this part locked down, I'll be looking for more help with the front stage.

Looking at sub manufacturer recommendations, box sizes for each sub can vary by quite a bit. I'm just curious what the difference is. I know that a larger box decreases power handling of the woofer, but is there any difference in sound? Is a smaller box more susceptible to peaking? Sorry for the newb question - I'm trying to decide what will fit in the trunk. Thanks guys.

Well as far as power goes I plan on getting the SAZ-1500D. So about 1500-1600W. It's been a min since I measured the dimensions so I can't remember exactly. I do know a 4 ft^3 box was too big (it would fit, but leaves me with no trunk space. If I had to guess, I don't want to go over 3 cubes. That's why I was leaning towards the RL-Ps in 3 cubes @ 34 Hz. However, I was a little nervous that that tuning is a little high. Then again, I know nothing of ported boxes. Never built one. I really should measure the trunk again, but these singel digit temps are keeping me inside for the time being. So has anyone run the RL-Ps in 3 cubes @ 34 Hz? Does it sound OK? I'm guessing it will get loud, but were you happy at normal listening levels (then again my normal listening levels may completely differ from someone elses)? It's very difficult to ask questions because its all very subjective and completely dependent on how my car is going to interact with the equipment I put in it. But I'd still like to hear your opinions. Thanks guys.

Besides the two ported RL-Ps, I have been also considering: 1) 2 12" RL-Ps sealed 2) 2 12" SSDs sealed 3) 2 12" Qs sealed 4) 1 12" Q ported 5) 1 12" BL ported Too many options. You guys gotta stop making so many good woofers - its making deciding too hard.

So I'm really considering picking up two 12" RL-Ps for the new car. I've been reading through the forum here and it seems like people have nothing but great things to say about them. Add that to the fact that they have relatively small ported enclosure recommendations, and you have piqued my interest. The old system was 2 12" Infinity Reference subs (sealed) with 300W on each in a Cavalier. Sounded like crap, but at least I had some bass. I have said goodbye to that car/setup almost a year ago now and I really need something in the new car. I still have to measure the trunk to figure out how much space I want to give up. But I'm thinking along the lines of 3.2 ft^3, tuned to 32 Hz. I know I had measured and planned out 4 ft^3 box, tuned to 32 Hz for 2 12" SSDs, and that was too much space to give up. I know the 3.2 ft^3 box isn't much smaller, especially considering its more like 3.5 ft^3 when taking sub displacement into consideration. I guess the question is will that box be all right for these subs? My main goal is output, but I don't want it to sound like complete crap either. I listen to mostly rap so SQ isn't really on the top of my list for priorities. I would go sealed but I know I would lose output. On the other hand, as long as I can get this setup louder than the last one, I think I'll be happy. Can anyone recommend other subs that could possibly achieve my goal? I may be convinced to run sealed if I can get the results I want (read more output). I'd like to keep the budget around the same price range as the two RL-Ps. As far as power, I pretty much have my heart set on the SAZ-1500D. Thanks in advance for the help. If I haven't provided enough information, let me know and I'll give you all the details. PS - I know a lot of this is install dependent. Just looking for opinions based on your own experiences.

Yeah, that's true. I was just surprised that no one came on here and said "hey this is a great amp." There always seems to be a lot of talk about the 1500D - just surprising to not hear about the 1000D. I'm sure its a great amp. I've heard enough good things about Sundown to warrant a purchase - just deciding whether to go 1500D or two 1000Ds. Ah, well that is an easy one, especially if you already have subs. If you have a 1 ohm load, 1500D, if you have a 2 ohm load, two 1000Ds. In either event unless you are running competition at loads under 1 ohm / voltage over 14.4 volts the pair of 1000Ds will be more powerful. Well, I don't have the subs. But I am leaning towards a pair of 12" SSDs with copper coils. I have heard that they will be OK on a 1500D, but I can't help but want to put them on 2 1000Ds. Always been a fan of overhead and plus I want to make sure I get the most out of them.

Yeah, that's true. I was just surprised that no one came on here and said "hey this is a great amp." There always seems to be a lot of talk about the 1500D - just surprising to not hear about the 1000D. I'm sure its a great amp. I've heard enough good things about Sundown to warrant a purchase - just deciding whether to go 1500D or two 1000Ds.

OK, so if I don't have it completely backwards, I understand that the higher the preout voltage, the lower the gain can/should be set because the amp doesn't have to be as sensitive of the incoming signal - so the amp can put out full power with the lower gain. My question is since the gain isn't set as high, is the amp drawing less current because of it? Or is it drawing the same amount of current as a signal with a lower preout voltage and higher gain setting? Just curious.

I'm curious why there hasn't been any mention of these amps since the preorder shipped out. There was a lot of talk up until then and I sort of expected some reviews to follow. Maybe I missed it but I dont remember seeing anything. So how is everyone liking these? I am considering picking up a couple and just wondering how they are performing for people.