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oh so you aready got an IDMax? The "old" magnum in my opinion was very similar to it. i dont think your going to notice a very big differnce with the switch. if its not good enough for you perhaps you should try putting a little more thought into your enclosure. I personally dont think another 300 bucks on a sub is going to justify the upgrade youll get. I think the magnum wasa little more accurate, but didnt drop quite as low. i messed with both subs quite a bit. The magnum seemed to be able to deal with mire power a little better too. But all in all i think you should work on your box if its just not doin it for you.

knukonceptz.com has them for like 70bucks i think. 70 or 80 and its the highest strand count 1/0 ive seen so far.

the SI D2 is in the category that people call "super subs" or "uber subs". The SI D2 is in the opinion of many and incredibly acurate sounding sub. You would compare it upon subs like the XXX, Brahma, W7, IDMax. It works wells in small sealed boxes and from what ive heard from others just as well ported. Small power also is no problem as it is a very efficient sub. In those terms its similar to an IDMax, and IDMax's can get movin very well with minimal power. Now in my personal opnion this is not the sub for the bass finatic. It plays everything well and how it susposed to be, and it can still drop very well, but from what ive experienced its not that sub thats going to play the oberbearingly low notes with lots of power behind it (im refering to the horibly unblanaced rapper cars where you hear bass and hardly any vocals). Of course this will vary depending on enclosure and i have built a enclosure for it designed specifically to knock out those overbearingly lows (10-25hz). But do keep in mind that even those rap songs with so uber low drops are only briging about 30-35hz. 20-30hz is more what you would get from test tones or ocasionally some techno. and majority of people can even make out the note played on a 20-30 hz (20 and below is the hearing cutoff for humans) all in all, subs is a great value, a fanastic driver, and has not been toped by any subs i have yet to hear (and ivve heard all the above mentioned subs. Though i do have to be fair and say that i did not make sure al the subs above were in boxes designed to give optimum SQ, since my SI D2 was. And the new versions might be even better

make the new 8 incher 2 ohms! and make it ork awesome off 100 watts! (omg somehow thats exactly what my T-4.65 puts out) lol i dunno im bored, and i need something to mate with my horns lol.

NOOOO, We need 8's for a 2-way horn setup!!!! Everyone is now under my hypnosis, everyone has no forgotten jordon94z's post. hahah

the magnum d2 i the greatest SQ sub ive ever heard at least in my opinion. i caNT say about the ov.2 cuas ei never heard it but the amgnum in my opinion out performs he old A series and they said the ov.2 was susposed to be on par with the old a series. its definently bette than the re sx. I feel that its better than the RExxx and the xx is a model above the SX. As for lethal injection arent those stricly spl subs? im not sure but i know magnums get sickly loud. The have the best SQ ive ever heard and they get very loud. 600 watts it nothing for this sub but will defintly get it moving. it got to loud for my taste off A linear power 2.2 hv (600watts rms). and many people run them daily with 1000-1500. hope that helps

im building a transmision line box for a 15 D2. for theie/small parameters it my progrm apears to want FD Re Lvc Bl SD Vad Qed Qmd Qtd

wow nice looking design blows away the old one. is anything else changing besides the basket? what al improvements are taking place.. and dang you gotta give the 8 incher that basket too. and another question...... any pre-order prices !?!

i dont know how you feel about buying used but i found this link for you on eca http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showth...?threadid=99784 if you raid those 2 80 giggers you ll be VERY happy.

hmm.. no go on the case its very very very old style and to small anyways.. but i think fry's was having a sell this week so maybe ill pick you something up

i remeber some guy on here saying he hit 150 something with 1 12.

i might be able to get a a case off one of my brothers computers in his room ( ive never seen them even turned on lol) ill have to check whats insde them too and see if i can salvage that. what kinda of stuff will this computer be running? what areas are going to be really bogged down? i can def guide you in the right direction if you need it for parts.

im not sure if i got any spare parts around but im a huge computer geek so if you need any help with things i can sureley help ( i built many computers). im assuming your motherboard only takes ddr right? cuase i got memory laying around i think but i dont believe its ddr. can you please give me a complete list of EVERY part you need to make it run. I might be able to get you free stuff through friend. and do you need any software in particular. i have tons of stuff laying around ive colleted over the years like LightWave and stuff.

a couple weeks ago i couldnt get on the forum i just got spammed like non other. even had to restart a couple times lol. but now it all working again. was my comp screwed or was something wrong? btw FINSIH THE 8'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

actrualy looking kinda similar to a ABC box, though ive never seen a ABC box built for dual subs, i really wanna hear how this baby sounds.

^ i dunno if i want this guy breaking in my sub :ugh:

No 18's!!!!! ahe i see what your doing, kickin it up to 21 inch instead are you! tricky devils you.

BUT I AM! if nick pulls off a 18 with the SQ of his 12 i will "bow down"

hm why not 2 8s and a 15

that wasnt working for me., it needed more inforamtion and wouldn save the file.

does anyone out there by chance have a file made for WinISD pro alpha? for 15 inch magnum. i had it but lost in durring reformatting (yeah i used to be a computer nerd hehe) but now when i try to make one with the updated alpha pro it says stuff is missing and i need more specs. but on the bright side, it seems the updated pro alpha might be more accurate with magnums? i know lots of stuff looked really crummy on paper wth it in the old pro alpha, but modeling up a 12incher ported in there (yes i kept 12 inch files) it had a better F3 than the ported 15s from the old version.

weehoo thanks

all the fancy stuff really doesnt make much of a difference for cars. think about it, for most people youll be running wire undercarpets and behindd walls and stuff. it makes a difference for home casue your running all over the TVs and elecronics and stuff. that all interferes somewhat but speaker wire is speaker wire. car and home all use the same stuff generally unless you get fancy.

yeah im thinking the same thing. and how is mounting depth. im thinking of getting these and plopping down in da kickpannels. make it a 2 way set up with my horns.

yeah man get canare starquad 10 awg!!!!! jk, i actrualy heard that as long as your wires are twisted then generally they aint gunna get much better than that for car aplications (very different in home) and its even more difficult to hear noise comming though your subs from stuff like that. depending on how much power you are running determines the appropriate gauge wire. and since you didnt say im assuming you have something around 1000 watts? which in that case i would suggjest 12 or 10 awg. you could use 16 guage i supposes, but if you look at the amperage that 16 gauge is rated for youll see why most wouldnt use it with this much power. just think amps times volts equals watts, so if you find a site that will list the amperage that different size wire is rated for, just multiply it by the volts you have and that will tell you your wattage. match the rated wattage of the cable to your amp. but heck make it easy on your self just get 12 or 10 gauge and youll be fine lol.