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thanks bud well a little video from yesterday I think we might need to get the stripper pole inside asap 12-16mm of deadening isn't holding up to well http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151695267410763&l=5526063826142189557

Well heres car im working on at the moment its a citroen C2 will be a daily drive system Headunit: not decided yet Front end: 8x b2 audio hn8" mids, 4x hntt bullet Tweeters Subs: 16x Ascendant Audio Arsenal 10s amps: 4x SPL Dynamics ICE-1500D, 2x SPL Dynamics ICE-150.4 Batteries: 2x XS Power D3100, 1x XS Power 2400 6x sheets of 18mm birch epicenter ipad fiblerglassed into dash 4x xs power 0gauge runs 1x 300amp alternator 2 m16 threaded bars and a fiberglass resin mix inside door frame read windows welded up and smoothed 3x Silent Coat MultiLayer Extra Bulk Packs 1

a little vid wasn't full tilt and tunning it as 34hz not the 29hz its going to be quite windy

thanks guys amps seem to be running very well even with my dropping them down to 11s (car still has standard 70amp alt at the moment) well about time I updated this car had mot today only a cuple things that have failed mainly due to bits being robbed off it but easy fix so mot pretty much sorted I havnt had much time to work on the c2 due to family problems so for mod nats it wont look pretty but aslong as it has bass I will be happy 34hz without front end of port mosconi 4 to 6 and epic fitted 36mm birch ply and 50x50x6mm angle iron this shouldnt flex seat belts fitted bass over leg space

update time only 5 days until it has to be playing

thanks guys well I have lots and lots of pics to post but I will still off with a cuple until tomorrow

thanks guys heres another little update getting there just needs side skirts, door lock, wheels and the roof ect wraping plus we will be changing the lights for tinted ones got a little delivery 8 amps 9,000rms for the c2 and 3,500rms for my saxo next step carry on with the audio on the c2

well cuple more bits been going on car is now ready for paint and the main box is nearly done just a little more steel todo then cuple coats of fiberglass once thats done i can get the tunnel finished and get it in the car for good and get it fully sealed up and start running wiring think we are going to go for the brushed look as not a fan of the bling bling polished look not sure what the plan for the roof is might wrap it in matt black well little teaser as the pics aint great but will get some decent pics once i put the car back together and it isnt dark the blue is brighter in person

steel bracing on all 8 corners car is in primer at last smoothed off the fog lights 3liters of fiberglass and resin mix in the whole top half of door bus bar finally done might give it a polish when i have time just need need to make perspex box for it now now this is the reason you dont leave the keys in the car i leave the car is reverse as it has no hand brake. duncan decided to start the car it shoot back 10ft into 10 of the subs and a wall : damage to the car damage to 1 sub funny how the subs aint even in the car yet and there destroying it :L

thanks yep port area will be fine have around 8sqin i think most of the street bassers in the uk run between 6-10 but im building it so i can change area and length without to much bother just a normal ported design but the tunnel helps with loading and they have a nice sound to them thanks dude

time to start fiberglassing now going todo the corners where the car is 1st then im going todo the whole inside of the box

hopfully one more skim and that side is done rear panels made and worked out the amp layout can now fit a 7th and 3rd 3100d if we need to time to start getting the box sealed

another update door speakers

thanks people car is on coil overs and might use spring helpers on the back

haha i have todo a rebuild on mine at some point and thats fitting 4 18 btl neo 2s in a car even smaller than this one thanks people will get some more pictures up in a mo

Well i am Liam from England been into car audio for 4 years now i have had the car from standard to what it looks like today all work has been done/paid for by me. The main aim for the car was a streetbasser that competes in propper droppers which is a format over here that tests how flat your system plays between 20Hz and 40Hz they test the system with the termlab on the passenger headrest and a window or door open, they test 20,25,33,40Hz and your peak then you get an average i am currently the loudest system in walled under 6,000rms. I have had 4 walled systems in the car over the last 2 years. 6 12s flat wall, 8 budget 12s ported tunnel then replaced the budget subs with some better subs and now i have the 18s. Current aim for the car is to keep my title on propper droppers and to make a low powered 149.9 bass racer. sounds system: pioneer deh-p7100bt audiocontrol epicenter 10x JBL: GTO-837 8" coaxial speakers 2x Genesis Profile 4 4x JBL: GTO-1201.1 Mono Amplifier (4,400rms total) 2x fi btl neo 2 18s with smd baskets fully loaded 2x XS power D3100 250amp @ 14.1 alternator 20m of 0gauge power cable 50m of speaker cable 20m 4gauge power cable 17cu:ft box made out of mdf, birch and steel sealed in with 10 cans of expanding foam 1" mdf roof with 3" of expanding foam topped with a 1mm steel sheet to cover sunroof 60 sq:ft of 2mm ivanhoe (roof, rear bench/boot floor, doors(inner and outer skin), rear quaters) 20 sq:ft of 4mm Silent Coat Extra Door Kit (foot wells and wheel wells) Mods to the car: custom center console for phone and gauge custom door builds 15" white alloys wide mouth grill lowered 100mm front (coilovers) 100mm+ back 4-2-1 manifold carbon fiber vinyl roof full vt kit fitted and colour coded fogs and front toeing eye smoothed and grill widened side badges smoothed in front grills black meshed relocated immobiliser keypad custom built keyles/fobles entry system upgrade from standard 80amp alternator to a 250amp one Sunroof removed: Door build: The subs: Build progress: was a rush job to get the 18s in and playing hairtricks still got lots of things todo things todo next is flares and then im looking at upping the power time for some numbers these number where the day after a weekend show where i had been playing with engine off so batteries where flat. did a 151.2 @ 41hz dB drag style 31hz tunning Total average 152.5dB peak 154.4 @ 33hz 40hz 152.5 33hz 154.4 25hz 153.5 20hz 147.7 with blockers 27hz tunning Total average 152.6dB peak 154 @ 33hz 40hz 151.9 33hz 154 25hz 153.5 20hz 149.8 Score from my old systems ported tunnel tuned to 27hz with the 8 jbl gt5 12s did 150.1db @ 31hz dB drag style and the propper dropper scores where total average = 152.1 peak 153.5 @ 32hz 40=151.5 33=152.6 25=153 20=149.9 then upgraded to the Ground Zero RW12-AL's did 148.6 @ 31hz db drag style and the propper droppers scores where Total average 151.4 peak 153 peak @ 27hz 40hz 151.2 33hz 152.5 25hz 151.7 20hz 148.7 Even thou ground zeros had better xmax more power handling and more of a solid cone the scores where down but to the ear it sounded alot smoother and cleaner pictures of the ground zeros. youtube videos of the jbls

Well I had the uk propper dropper finals in october I have been working on the car over the last month tweeking to get it ready i got some port blockers made up and bought a new 210amp alt had slight problem with the alt as the pully was a spaced one where as my old one wasnt but got away with spacing my crank pully out to match the new alt pully. Well anyway i set off at 12pm yesterday picked up my mate on the way then went and seen wonky to borrow his fluke clamp to retest my amps power after having a little chat with him we headed off as it was a 2 and a haf hour drive from him to essex within ten minites of leaving him is when the bad times started was on the a roads doing 60mph around a large corna and the bonnet decided to pop up and say hello after about 3 seconds of shock and thinking wtf has just happend i managed to pull over saftly luckly i have a strong roof and the bonnet didnt dent that as that would of write off the car we managed to get the bonnet shut after alot of swearing i then decided that i was already 130 miles from home and that i would carry on at 45mph the final 150 miles to essex. I got hold of bt boomer(legend) and he had a spare screen for me. I turned up at pure carma at 7:30 and got straight in the lanes to see how badly my scores where down after covering the windscreen with a sheet to stop me getting sprayed in glass i still done a 153.7dB but my low end scores where down by over 2dBs but i kept my uk title on under 6k walled so very happy about that . Had a few demos with the sheet still up an the windscreen got alot worse we left pure carma at 12am and got the screen fitted had to wait half an hour for it to set a little but finaly got on my way home about 1:30am about 5am i had to pull over and got an hour and half sleep then got back on the road got home at 8:45am very tiring night but well worth it to catch up with some great people. my view for the 150 miles after an hour of booming screen out ben wasnt to happy with the fiberglass and expanding foam that was every where people seem to notice the saxo alot more when the bonnets held on with duct tape and windscreen with gaffa im now on the search for another four jbl 1201 amps then i can start on the rebuild for next year hopfuly than i will be braking screens with bass not my bonnet haha Well last event of the year and last show for the current saxo wall had a great day at bassjunkies had a nice demo of jason Ds system was very heavy amazing how loud it is for what is a no wall top work mate my system wasnt booming as much as i would of liked as my alt belt was sliping again so was booming engine off then charging as i went thru the lanes. i didnt get my 155 i was hoping for but still happy with the scores i got. scores with port blocker only used them as one of my goals for this year was to get the system to play 150+ at all pd freqs 150 @ 20hz 153.8 @ 25hz 153.8 @33 152.3 @40 153.9 28hz peak 152.7 average heres the scores without blockers 1: LiamB (Team Fi) - 2x 18" Fi - Ported box - 4000wrms Total Average Score = 152.7dB Peak = 154.4dB @ 33Hz 40Hz = 152.4dB 33Hz = 154.4dB 25Hz = 153.8dB 20Hz = 148.6dB only thing left todo now befor i pull the build out is to get my 155 im now swaping back over to my standerd alt for the winter then going to test with the fluke 377 clamp tp see if the 14.8v 70amps is better than the 14v 250amps is better as my loudest score so far has been with the smaller alt 250 amp alt 60hz 20.8A x 53.4V = 1,110.7 rms 2.56ohm 55hz 20.6A x 54.9V = 1,130.9 rms 2.66ohm 50hz 18.6A x 58.3V = 1,084.3 rms 3.13ohm 45hz 15.9A x 59.7V = 949.2 rms 3.75ohm 40hz 15.7A x 60.3V = 946.7 rms 3.84ohm 35hz 15.8A x 59.2V = 935.3 rms 3.74ohm 33hz 16.2A x 61.2v = 991.4 rms 3.77ohm 30hz 16.2A x 59.7V = 967.1 rms 3.68ohm 25hz 19.1A x 54.3V = 1,037.1 rms 2.75ohm vol36 20hz 12.2A x 41.0V = 500.2 rms 3.36ohm with standerd alt 60hz 20.9A x 54.9V = 1147 rms +37 2.6ohm 55hz 20.0A x 56.1V = 1122 rms -8 2.8ohm 50hz 19.0A x 58.8V = 1117 rms +33 3.0ohm 45hz 16.3A x 61.9V = 1008 rms +60 3.7ohm 40hz 15.9A x 61.6V = 979 rms +33 3.8ohm 35hz 16.0A x 61.2V = 979 rms +44 3.8ohm 33hz 16.0A x 61.9v = 990 rms -1 3.8ohm 30hz 16.5A x 61.5V = 1014 rms +47 3.7ohm 25hz 19.3A x 56.2V = 1084 rms +47 2.9ohm not bad for an amp thats rated at 787 watts RMS x 1 channel at 4 ohms 1114 watts RMS x 1 channel at 2 ohm @ and my results are with voltage dropping to low 12s

thanks the bass damage is getting worse heres some pics of my passenger door im going to be getting another 2 of these subs with the same baskets they sound awsome and get very loud off little power think now if i ever change subs it will be some n3s got an update will post it up in a bit once i have my scores from yesterday

thanks lads i got a deal on them from am at blade ice only reson i got the 6 spoke baskets was becuase i was in a rush to get them and there was a waiting list for the standerd 12 spoke thanks dude as said above i got them like that because i was in a rush to get them dont think there is any advantage they just look sexyer only downside mounting depth is bigger thanks it does look alot cleaner now i have made more trim panels and dont have the big yellows in there any more Well update i have had the subs out all week and i have smoothed the inside of the box as the gloss paint wasnt as smooth as it looked, put a flare on the inside of the port, rounded off the braces and fillerd some screw holes ect. i aint re paining the box yet as the finish i have at the moment is very smooth and i didnt have time as i was working on a customers car. flare well just got back from testing and its good and bad news db drag is up by 0.7db so im now doing 152.2 which should help my 149.9 bassrace but im down on propper droppers by 0.4 on peak and the other scores are down Went out for another little test and to try out some 149.9 bassraces after playing around for a little while i found a decent track after 4 runs of the laptop crashing i got a 149.8 just need to get my start a little better so after abit of practice i got a 151 start so hoping if i get starts like that but a little less on volume i can do a 149.9 easy just no more bassrace runs with the laptop in the car as ive been told they tend to brake. also got some stickers made up for the weekend they aint the final design but they will do for now well it was the uk finals this weekend for EMMA and dB drag at trax was an awsome show minus the rain in the morning but got my full points on EMMA and got 2nd place was only 3 points away from project big black i really need to get the EMMA disc so i can practice on how much epic to use ect as the the track we was given sucked. After doing EMMA i went over to the dB drag stand always good to catch up with the db dragers done my qualifier of 151.6db and won 1st place Extreme Os 1-2 then did bassrace qualifier nailed a 149.9 so thats one of this years goals done but as it came to the knockouts my laptop had moved my bassrace track and i had to use a random track that i hadnt practiced with and only could do a 149.6 against daz oh well next year i will learn to carry a spare usb stick. I am just doing some tweeking to the car at the moment ready for the UK Propper Dropper finals on the 1st of october hoping to try keep my uk title but theres alot of people in the walled under 6k class this year so its going to be tough. once that has been, the car is going to be striped ready for a full rebuild for next year :clown: joose and adam getting a free back massage while i demo opps thats why my door was wanging more than normal all fixed now had a chat with my mate and we are going to look at cutting the door open and puting 1" box section inside the door hopfuly that will hold up with next years install

thanks lad thanks i have been doing propper droppers for the last 4 years and its gettin bigger each year its now started to go over europe LMB audio is a company i have started up i only trade a little as i havnt had the funds to start up a store i have mainly been teaching my self building skills and getting to know the audio scene there Tsunami 0 guage ring terminals thanks dude means alot not on streetbasser much any more. FI subs have been in for about a month or 2 now and they are they are getting better and better got my self a termlab so i can do more rebuild and tweek them so will be keeping this thread updated will update this thread later as the laptop is dein