Darkjustice

he said his opinion wasnt just opinion it was fact. so he was called out on it. simple as that. if his opinion is fact then he should be able to show HOW its fact

i know you were going off your experience, but i was going based off of what lead to this thread. M5 came into malilbooms build log talkin about he was bombing it for misinformation despite maliboom not trying to teach anyone with his log just show his build. and i was acknowledging that M5 approached him in a positive way in the link he posted when maliboom was ASKING for suggestions, but even then that thread wasnt about his current wall. if M5 can supply concrete proof as to how hes right, or even how he came to his conclusions maybe things can go in another direction. but so far he refuses to even do that, and it was asked before the shitstorm started. for all i know his math COULD be right, but how can anyone know without him explaining it. also should point out again that the wall isnt like the pictures that were posted. i dont know if the specs are the same or not though

he posted what he had to say in a build log where someone was just posting pics if their build that a professional/ someone with alot more experience was doing. the op had another thread where he asked opinions on another box i believe, but not about his current wall. and the op didnt ask any questions during his build log that required M5 to be as he was, or anyone else for that matter. and the log wasnt even full of misinformation given he wasnt posting it to teach anyone, nor was it there to ask questions about a build that was already in progress. now if M5 wouldve posted some of his less insulting statements in the thread he posted then it would be different. and thats because the OP was asking for suggestions and advice.

he was also asked HOW it was incorrect. and he did say it would sound like shit

all i got out of this is credentials mean nothing online yet they mean something online. and that M5 is right despite never going into detail as to how he was right, yet anyone else requires proof to prove themselves right. thats alot of contradiction. and if i recall he was originally asked questions before he started demanding answers. it was asked more than once based on his conclusion what couldve actually been changed. and the sweep will solve nothing. why? because someone could still as easily come in here after it and say 'well based on the design and physics and despite the sweep it still wouldnt sound good/great to the ear' ,then what? EDIT: forgot to point out you say people lie all the time, but somehow M5 is exempt?

eh from what ive seen peel and seal is completely hit or miss. ive seen 2 cars from the same area prepped the same, and one failed months before the other

walmart sells it and probably any other major retailer. in the hardware department

yea its the only thing ive seen that goes through peel and seal so easily

klutter kutter will slice right through it like butter. i met a guy who had that happen to his car and i happen to have some klutter kutter with me so i sprayed it on and you could literally wipe it off with your finger like it was just dust

im just awaiting m5's return because he said as long as there is misinformation in a thread hed keep posting

my .02 is this. its not hard to correct a misinterpretation. if its obvious someone took something that was said the wrong way why not correct it or even point out that they took it in a way that it wasnt meant and just try to reapproach the situation.

he has vids just not of him metering. he probably wont have a vid of metering till may 7th which is the next show were all goin to. correction apparently hes doin it before then lol. hey big boi why dont we try to do it this weekend and throw another bbq lol

i agree completely with this. and how can we prove him wrong without him hearing it? even if the designers were to post all that was asked im sure hed just say 'well it would still sound bad to the ears'. hell even if he did hear it he could just as easily lie. and why should the builders/designers have to prove HIM wrong when they built it. if anything he should prove them wrong with the ill-refutable proof he has that brought him to his conclusions. if he has proof other than just saying physics and other maths he should post it. up til now he hasnt gone indepth as to how hes right, the builders are wrong, and what idea he knows would be superior

even though hes no longer here, cant wait till he doubles up the power and throws an alt in and sees what it does

So a more accurate response curve can be made, and they will finally realize that snake oil and fairy dust does not make an enclosure sound good. why does the enclosure sound bad?

These guys came across something with this enclosure that works for them in competition ... and they are winning !!! If I was them, I would not give exact specs to their design either ... They aparently have a winning edge with this design. If they give their "TRUE" secrets to their design, then someone will come along, read their designs, and come up with something better and beat them at their own game ... Its not a question if they "went by the book to build this" ... You all are wanting to exploit their tricks of the trade to see if they are cheating, or someone in your competition camp is building something to compete in their class and is wanting the upper hand in competition ... I congratulate them for coming up with something "out of the ordinary" and kicking ASS with it ... Last time, as I recall in competition, thats how and why you play the game ... To WIN ... There is nothing special about their 4th order bandpass, ///M5 is asking them to prove there is something unique about it, and they cannot come up with anything. noone said anything was unique. he said the builder/designer was wrong in every way and the box would be a failure, but it isnt. not even maliboom said it was special, or that all boxes should be built like his. just ' hey guys this is my mailbu and this is my wall' and people started shittin on it without him ever asking for advice on it. plus the builders/designers havent posted because theyve been busy but im sure they will chime in once they can

you do realize this applies to M5 too right? i asked quite some time ago how he came to all of his conclusions, as in an in-depth explanation how with the information he was given. i also asked the same of anyone else that 'reached' his conclusion. i never got an answer either. if he can actually explain something instead of getting defensive and letting emotion drive his fingers then maybe things can go in another direction

hes talkin about all the shit that went on in here