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Its going to be a big chunk of change. But if you went the (4)BL15 route, and with the power you had mentioned, I can see you doing everything for less than that. Do not get the SPL versions of any of these subs unless they are for competition use only. If they will see music (and I know they will for your setup) then get the daily driver option. Thanks, Scott

Solid setup. Thanks for the pics. After you spend some time with it, give us a long term review of things. Thanks, Scott

lol... If set up right, theyll knock your head pretty d@mn hard.

That is a stout amp for those subs. With the newer options, Im sure we can get them there for your application. I really think Wayne just shot himself in the foot (if the amount of major competitor vehicles that went up for sale immediately after this announcement is any indication). Introducing drastic points changes this late in the game is going to really screw people. Not too mention all of the issues you will have with 6 different places trying to correlate things together, no real centralized judgint to review or make a commitee type judgement (and we all have noticed that everyone judges differently), the fact that either the US or Europe will be doing this at well past midnight, that linking all of this together via the net has the ability to go majorly fubar... oh well. While the CA finals is MUCH closer to me, Ill be in FL (for the 3rd time this year... whats with that???). FL simply will be "the" show to attend. Not sure what it is about that state, but they are monsters for bass. Must be something in the water

why... sorry what is your name again? I have an awful memory for forum name = real name bigjae1976 would definitely know what he is talking about. And if you are simply using 4" PVC with no flares, then I know for a fact that you will have major port noise. I think he was having noise issues with a single 4" aeroport which reduces port noise DRASTICALLY vs a standard squared end round port.

liljohn... the options would work great for you... except that you create little bakers ovens with the heat you have in those sealed enclosures in your diamond. Youd reach the same problems after everything inside heated up to the same point... and YOU will heat it up to the same point... Couldnt be happier how relentless you are with the volume knob and demos Im putting pen to paper to figure out a nice solution to that issue... I think we can solve that one and tame the hair dryer you have going on in there...

Noah... Like I can pay people what I really would like to... just ask Shawn You get your package yet? His spine wont be an issue with this setup... but the rear passengers will be getting pummeled in the back of the head like nobodies business when the back seats are in place. Suspension is a non-issue. Itll be bagged up soon. I am dead against taking something that can offroad and dropping it... but Ill be damned if this thing doesnt look sick. 3 piece wheels wheels with 30 series tires dont do good out in the rocks either He laid out the ground work and first layers of fleece on the door pods over the weekend. He is fitting (6) AA 6.5s and (4) tweeters in the fronts and (4) AA6.5s and (2) tweeters in the backs... Im figuring he will probably have the upper end to keep up with the subs... Thanks, Scott

Thanks for the review and info so far about the install and subs. Cant miss that red wall with a pair of 18s in it. Im sure youll get double takes galore in rearview mirrors from people wondering what the heck is being unleashed in the Blazer behind them Keep us posted. Thanks, Scott

Sorry They are getting a thicker top plate and different gapping. Cast basket, new curvilinear paper cone... D4 coils that are beefier than the last S4s. Just upgrading all the little things on them and getting them setup to be a solid entry level dealer line (not that they werent before, but it seems a pair of them on a amp is requested more often than a single unit or 4 of them. We may offer a S4 coil down the road if dealers really ask for it. Thanks, Scott

Yes, I have the parts to build another one (and PLENTY of parts for recones or more subs after that). Id say that you would have more output potential with the (4) X12s vs a pair of SSD12s... but the pair of SSD12s would fair better with the power you have available. Xs were (are) rated at 250W. They are a solid entry level sub that works well in ported or sealed and sounds great. Cant go wrong with the ZX. Kicker amps work great in many of our Bassrace setups. You could run them in as small as 1.75 cuft each tuned to 33 or higher... But a that point, Id defer to a pair of SSD15s in the same overall space. Dont even get me started on Wayne and his antics Thanks, Scott

Yup... I think that the BLs would suit things a little better. As others will tell... (4)BTLs adds up fast... not only in sub cost, but amps, wire, batteries, and alternators. Thanks, Scott

They would hinder things a little... but provided that the seats werent smashed to the back of the wall and have a relatively easy air path around them... itll still be loud Thanks, Scott

If space isnt an issue, the (4)BL15s with power split to them will be louder than a pair of BTL15s. Thanks, Scott

Mikey060... You are looking at an extra $26.50 for shipping on the sub. If you would like to place an order and have a Paypal account, you can simply send the total to [email protected]. For shipping to Canada we normally use USPS as they have decent shipping rates, but significantly reduced brokerage fees vs FedEx, DHL, or UPS. If you need to order via Credit/debit card, please email me direct at [email protected] and I can give you all the information on how to do so... Thanks... Scott

Are they bottoming out, sounding like they are straining and hurting, or stinky like they are on fire?

Very little. There is a little spec change on the drivers as we are adding a little more suspension stiffness (although we are swapping stiff spiders out for more soft ones too). The subs stay a little closer to their original suspension values and have a slightly increased qts, fs, and reduced vas. Not too much of an issue and I have found it to be beneficial in mst bassrace setups. Now this is not something for everyone and I dont think that most people need to add it. But we are getting more and more bassrace applications where being able to stack more power to ge the sub to its linear limits for a specific application requires more than the rated RMS power (often quite a bit more) and this option allows you to push things a little harder for some applications. If you are looking for a SQ setup or just a clean daily setup within the normal limits of the subs... then there is no point. Would I recommend it to someone with 1200W in a daily driver? I doubt it as it really wouldnt be needed and the extra 200W really isnt an issue. Its the guys that are trying to stack on 1800W and push them as hard as possible for 30 seconds (or try to all day) while voltage starts to drop and things start to get ugly towards the end. Thanks, Scott

Yep I just noticed that this morning. Ill go through and get things set up for the correct height for the kit and you are looking at $98 shipped for it. Please let me know if I can help with anything else. Thanks, Scott

Well, considering your tuning its not too strange that you arent burping much louder than you are bassracing. Youd gain a bit if you tuned 53-54 Hz range for burps... but seeing as you are going bassrace (which I find much more fun that straight SPL) thats definitely not the ticket. I am not going to tell you to run the amp at .5 Ohms as it is really tough on coils and leadwires and produces quite a bit of heat (given that you are producing more current than voltage to get your power). As others have mentioned, its not always a good choice for daily to run below 1 Ohm. Right now are the subs reaching mechanical, thermal, or both limits? This will give me a better idea of what route to take to either change coils and upgrade the suspension, or simply call it a day with the SSDs and have you step up to the Qs. Thanks, Scott

We already spoke about the options for your subs which include these Yes, the spider packs can be retro fitted with a new recone as well. You have no worries there. Thanks, Scott

Nope.

Do you mean to double up the enclosure walls? Usually not for a Q12... As far as ports, I normally do 1 slot port for them, although aeroports a single 4" is pushing things and it might be a tough call to stick a pair of them in the box depending on the dims and space you have. Thanks, Scott

Not the most efficient driver out there, but I have said for years that the efficiency number has little to do with bottom octave performance. They are less efficient than a BTL, but will have more bottom end per Watt (up until there mechanical limits). They will need a good break in preiod before they settle into specs and really start to shine SQ wise. Or with only 700-800W, I can use 2 soft spiders to get a wee bit more out of them and to be a little more stable suspension wise overall. Thanks, Scott

Should be good with 30sqin of port. We recommend 12 - 16 sqin per cuft. I think youll be able to limp along with a Q for a while Thanks... Scott

Wow... 2500W each. Well I might be able to work a wee bit o magic and make something happen with that. What tuning are you looking to do?

I wont make a fully loaded 10, but we have made the standard versions and recently shipped out a 3 magnet 10". The 10s arent the optimal sub out there for daily. VERY low qts which leads to a saddle shaped response curve. Id recommend the BL10 for all but the most high power daily setups. BL10s seem to be very solid. How much space do you have to work with? Thanks, Scott