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Sounds like an amp issue. If a sub cuts off, it wont come back on again... cant say I have seen intermitant things happen with a sub that wasnt electrical related. Although the amp doesnt go into protect, it might be pushed beyond its limits. The fact that the volume goes to 80 and you are only at 55 doesnt mean that you arent pushing the amp beyond its capabilities. This is where proper gain settings come into play. I have seen many amps clip, cut out, and act very weird without ever going into protect. Does this happen at a specific freqeuncy as well, or just when pushed beyond "55" on the volume? Thanks, Scott

8 cuft would work well. For a low tuned daily setup Id look to about 33Hz. We normally recommend 12-16 sqin of port per cuft as well. Please let me know if I can help with anything else. Thanks, Scott

Didnt have one of those protos at home. Ill have to measure tomorrow when I get to work.

MX isnt an SQ sub either... just a solid daily driver that is somewhat of a do-it-all. While the BTL has proven itself for SPL, most everyone running them daily as blown away by how good they sound as well. BTL is a solid dual (daily/SPL) sub. Thanks, Scott

Glad to hear they are doing well. Death match makes me cringe Poor subs

We do not have a D4 coil but we do have a D1 coil we could use... still yielding a 2 Ohm load for the amp. 6.0 is 1200W and the Havoc is 1250 RMS. Should be a good match for most applications. Thanks, Scott

Arsenal: 10" -6.000" 12" -6.500" 15" -8.000" Assassin: 10" -5.250" 12" -5.750" Thanks, Scott

Input? Me??? Naw...lol I think it has all been said. If I look at the coils and suspension on the previous model, we have upgraded those in size and number. But I am never one to say double the RMS all day and youll be happy. While there is a possibilty for it, I wouldnt in a million years stick 2500W to the older version (nor the newer one). Just as Steve Meade has 4500+ W per BTL, I do not recommend power like that to those either. At the end of the day it is really a function of the user and application more than anything. Parts are beefier, but my recommendations are not

SQ will "improve" in my opinion, but you will definitely loose in output. As others have said, keep that box in storage incase you want to go back to the loud side of things

Looking good! Cant wait for your impressions of it when its done... we will see hoe long the mirror will last this time

Very cool:) Cant wait for your impressions once its finsihed...

OK... how many subs and the total box for X number of subs is 17-18 cuft? Each sub has 165 sqin of port 9" long as well? Im sure itll work fine, but normally a little tweaking on things will optimize them for the application.

No I do not have the specific specs for your subs... But if you let me know space and other things we can help you get it setup and rolling. Specs really dont help in the grands scheme of things with SPL. But you could realistically take the BTL15 specs off the site and use those. Nothing majorly different between them. Thanks, Scott

Hmmm... hard call there. How much space do you think you would have overall? Im sure youd have enough for a pair of 18s (BL or BTL). Then the problem becomes... should you order a single BTL 18 and 2500W amp (with the ability to add another sub and amp down the road) or do a pair of BLs off the single amp and have less room for upgrades. The pair of BLs (15s or 18s) will be louder initially, but if you really want to upgrade later, the pair of BTLs and amps will definitely take the cake. Hinges on your ultimate goals. Be advised that you would need some solid electrical upgrades to push a 5000W too... so it becomes a little more involved the larger you plan on going. Let me know approx what space you will have and we can see if we cant optimize things from there

Either the Aresenal or the SSD 10 with the copper coil would work well in a smaller ported enclosure. Maintain good SQ, but have some ooomph too it when you need it (relatively for the size of the setup). Either one in 1 cuft tuned from 30-33 Hz will drop deep and sound clean.

We can tweak the SSDs to work a little better in the sealed setup (provided I know that the subs will be used in a sealed application when they are ordered). I would personally take the pair of sealed subs over the single ported 99% of the time. You will have similar output near tuning with the sealed subs vs ported, but more top end as well as a more natural frequency response overall. Thanks, Scott

With the BL and the 2006, Id look to the D2 flatwind and cooling options. For the 1606 the same would work fine, or you might be able to get away with just the cooling on the standard coil too. 2.2 tuned to 33 is a solid daily setup for that sub and amp combo.

Send me an email and a pic to [email protected] if you get a chance. The terminals are labeled + and - as well into the plastic... but gotta love the terminal manufacturer. Sorry

Looks like you got it Keep us posted in either this or the other post you have. Thanks, Scott

BL is out of the question... they dont like sealed. But I could see a 1.6 cuft "ported" enclosure with a BL12 using a single 4 " Aeroport externally side firing. Id shoot that towards the drivers side to load in the corner. Should work well and have plenty of output for the space. More so than a sealed Q would. The BLs have a little more motor strength and can be shoved into smaller ported enclosures than the Q could ported.

As for the subsonic being set at 25 Hz at 12 dB/oct... I have been telling people to pick up the Harrison Labs adjustable F-mod and using it in conjunction with the factory amp filter to double up. Sort of eliptical, but better than the standard setting. Not sure what RF and Kicker were thinking without having the subsonics adjustable...

3 at 35 should make for a loud/clean daily setup. Please keep us posted.

It will "work" but not optimally and youd be better stepping down to a 15" at that point. Even at 5 cuft tuned to 33Hz itll peak in the 40-60 range and not be quite as loud down low... yes it works, but not a flat response.

Should work fairly well. We can tweak the SSDs to be a little more sealed oriented as well if we know the application when we are building the subs. Thanks, Scott

4-6 cuft seems to keep most people happy. 4 cuft is about .83 Qtc which can be dropped a little with some poly fill (up to 1 lb per cuft of enclosure). Thanks, Scott