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Please send an email to [email protected] with your zipcode and these kits and we will get you a quote for them. Thanks, Scott Fi Car Audio

Sorry everyone for not getting to spend much time on here this past week. We have been excessively busy at the shop, but I have simply hit the "not enough hours in the day" thing recently. Between Fi, Ascendant, and several new OEM projects I have been swamped. I finished up a some design and testing on the OEM front this week and will clear up one more sub system by the end of the weekend (or at least the latest iteration of it). Im hoping to be back on here in full force starting Monday next week. In the meantime... there have been a few things I wanted to do this month that I simply havent had the time too... Since this is our 1 year anniversary for Fi, I wanted to give a tiny thanks and offer up a fully loaded BTL18 in a contest. Ill announce the details in the next day or two. Next, for anyone that orders a BL with the flatwindcoil between now and Oct 10th we will add the cooling for free. This saves you $40 on one of our most popular option combinations. We have also made the balance of production on the older Fi X series 10 and 12 drivers. We have as (157) X10 D4s and (200) X12 D4s. Last price on them was $109 and $119 shipped. We will do them for $150 for a pair of 10s and $160 for a pair of 12s shipped to the lower 48 states. Had parts collecting dust after we pulled the line... so we will blow them out and reclaim some space. Even further price drops for larger orders. Ill get a post going for this shortly as well. Again... thanks to Shawn and Nick, as well as all forum memebers that have been answering and helping in my absence. Ill be back shortly Thank, Scott

X10 DUAL 4 nbsp Fs: 25.9 Hz Re: 3.9 Ohms/coil Qms: 3.90 Qes: .35 Qts: .32 Mms: 110g Cms: 0.34mm/N Sd: 310cm^2 Vas: 45.7 l Spl: 85.4dB 1W/1m Bl: 20 N/A Xmax: 16mm Rms: 300W Sealed box: .5-.8cuft Ported box: .9-1.5cuft Sub OD: 11.00 Cut ID: 9.25 Mounting depth: 5.25 Displacement: .07cuft X12 DUAL 4 Fs: 25.7 Hz Re: 3.9 Ohms/coil Qms: 4.01 Qes: .38 Qts: .35 Mms: 120g Cms: 3.2mm/N Sd: 480cm^2 Vas: 104.1 l Spl: 88.6dB 1W/1m Bl: 20.0 N/A Xmax: 16mm Rms: 300W Sealed box: .9-1.3 cuft Ported box: 1.6-2.2 cuft Sub OD: 12.500 Cut ID: 11.125 Mounting depth: 5.750 Displacement: 0.08cuft Ill get an official post for these up shortly. 80inches... Ive got a few different 2" coils, but not sure what will work in that motor without actually having it in front of me. osixfrontier... been there and done that with more than one company and more than one time. It is next to impossible to find anyone that would really eliminate some of my workload. I have Shawn and Nick that help with tech tremendously and are as knowledgable as they come, but they arent in Vegas. What it has always boiled down to is when we do have someone extra to take care of phones and email, everything gets forwarded to me anyway to take care of. Whatever help we get doesnt know whats being asked or how to properly answer it and I feel its a disservice to customers to have an idiot trying to answer questions (well besides me as I own it...lol). But I am training another machinist which will free up a decent amount of my time... which in turn gets me to sit at a desk and take care of the balance of the business for part of the day. I should be able to turn him loose in about 2 weeks... Just in time for dB Drag... which then turns into a mad scramble to finish the H2 for SEMA with Ascendant products.... then its smooth sailing (for at least a week Thanks, Scott

Back at you with a total and shipping options. Give me a call tomorrow or an email by 7am Pacific time so we can get shipping set for tomorrow. Thanks, Scott

Id stick to a single driver size. It reduces issues with cancellation and is easier overall to setup. I would go ported as well. If you are ported, the BLs with some power would be a solid choice. The cooling will help things for long term listening. The port will keep things from heating up like a Holly Hobby Easy Bake Oven Lil Jon can tell you how hot his sealed subs get... with visual waves of heat coming off things. Sealed for too long simply makes ovens inside the box. Inverted will help though. Thanks, Scott

I wouldnt recommend it for inverted mounting. Yes, there is noise from it as it is pumping air through the channels. Nick is probably correct in that you wouldnt hear it relative to the balance of output (especially in a trunk app) but I wouldnt think of it in anything but a trunk like that.... Just in free air you can hear it, but its not "loud". No worse than blocking off a normal subs pole vent with your hand and the associated air chuffing it would make.

OK let me clear the air here a little... Im glad I went home early for paper work before this gets out of hand... Let me start by saying that I dont have to download Reign in Blood... I have it on a few different discs and versions . This forum is VERY knowledgeable and normally doesnt come off in a bad way either. I believe that people are trying to give you solid advice, so please dont take it the wrong way. They will gladly teach if you listen and take it for what it is. You have two VERY knowledgeable people on this post that will tell you exactly what you need to know. But, from my side of things Ill start by asking, what do you currently have as far as products? Ill try to work with what you have before you buy things you might not need. I wouldnt do two sets of differnt sized components up front. I would do a very solid midbass up front as this is where a good portion of the double kicks will come into play (not from the sub). Do you have a specific budget to work with? There is no reason that a single BTL18 with a VERY stout midbass upfront cant get you what you are looking for. I have all the other drivers of Fi and Ascendant that I could recommend, but I dont see a major conflict with your current choice if you have the front stage to take care of things correctly. So for my sake, please give me a run down (as the rest of this post has gotten somewhat confusing with the sarcasm...lol) of your system goals. To me it seems you are looking for a solid SQ setup that can rock very hard and loud? Correct me if Im wrong... Thanks, Scott

Sent an email to you as well. Subs were sent out on Wednesday and Id figure that youd get them today or tomorrow. I will contact for payment details as well. Thanks, Scott

Sounds like a solid plan. Id have the port exit towards the front of things if you are firing it down as well. Having them load in the same area too far back as the subs will cause odd cancellations.

Ive always enjoyed the Dynacos. They got me started on a few different kt88 based amps after that. Simply dont have time to roll tubes or chase hum anymore

Like I say with all the subs I build... we stick to the RMS ratings

Figuring these are working a wee bit better Keep us posted on how they sound. Thanks, Scott

Yeah, that was a "fun" error there. When we had made the production run on the 8s we had 2 pallets... one magnetized and tested, and the other just off the line. Apparently one of our new guys packing had been pulling from both pallets. We had to go through 112 8s that were boxed and check them all. Found 14 that were not magnetized. The 8" is the only speaker that we currently manufacture without magnetizing it first. The benefit to the is is that any dust or cr@p will not get into the gap and stick, the disadvantage is that we cant test at several points along the build like we do with all other drivers. So, for all future runs of these, we will magnetize first so that we can check before the final top glue, then after it is dustcapped for full sweeps. For us if we send out an unmagnetized sub, it would mean that it had not seen any QC and wasnt tested at all... simply doesnt happen for any other driver size since every motor is magnetized before the build with the first QC/build list sticker applied then (our normal magnetizer coil is 10" ID so anything larger than an 8" wont fit) Glad no one else got them...

Emails to you

Got back with you via email... should be there tomorrow. Thanks, Scott

Chad is rolling along full steam with production for Epik. I cant wait until reviews start rolling out for them... they are amazing subs for the money. Nothing on the market comes close at that. Not too mention the Conquest absolutey murdering everything curently available (and costing several times as much)... I think he will sell more than a few of those As for the site, we have gone through 2 different companies making it. It has been more than a nightmare getting things going. And each time it becomes a ground up process with the new company as they find nothing salvageable from the last. While loosing a little $$$ on things so far, I have lost more than enough sleep and patience with it all. Current company is rolling along fine and is actually producing things on the stated schedule. Sorry for the delays with it all

A pair of the carbons? Ill see what I can come up with if thats the case. Candou2... any pics of the line arrays? How do you like the carbons as well? Fairly similar overall to the polys, but with a little more break up to deal with on the top end... although not as ridiculous as some composites I have measured. Thanks, Scott

We recommend 12-16 sqin of port per cuft for most slot port applications. As they are Assassins and do not have as much overall linearity as the Havoc, you can go towards the lower side of the recommendations and be fine. Thanks, Scott

Looking at about 1 cuft for either application. The 10s would be louder near tuning, but the 12s would be louder below tuning as well as from about 20 Hz above. 750 is more than I recommend to the two subs, but it seems that most people usually put more than recommended with fine results. Just ease into things to find limits before really beating them full tilt (although most with DLS products are a little more SQ oriented and less likely to kill products). Thanks, Scott

DC resistance should be about .7 Ohms per coil and about 1.4-1.5 Ohms for both coils wired in series. Did you get a chance to "pop" test the coils like Nick had suggested? As for sending it back, it can be sent to: Fi Car Audio Attn: Warranty 5480 Cameron St #107 Las Vegas NV 89118 I also got to your PM as well... we will get this figured out. Thanks, Scott

Not TC I used to own RE Audio/DeStijl Engineering. As for the VR4000D, Id get the dual 1 Ohm version and run them at 2 Ohms. With the 4000D being a 2Ohm stable amp, that would be your best bet. If you dont need or want the power, simply set the gains or volume knob accordingly. Makes more sense to do it that way so you "could" have the power if you wanted it as opposed to only having 2kW out of 4kW no matter what. The amps wont run any hotter if they arent making the power. But it gives you more control. The next issue of enclosure volume vs bottom octave performance... the larger the enclosure, the more efficient it will be and the better it will produce the bottom end (if tuned for it). The flipside to this is the fact that it will reduce the mechanical power handling of the sub as well. Having a smaller airspiring behind the sub aids in controlling things under higher power applications. While they do work in 5 cuft and under (Steve Meade is proof of that), running 6 cuft or a little more for your application will net a little more efficiency and bottom end. I like tuning the fully loaded versions lower for daily... 33 Hz is a good tuning. Drops plenty deep and still hits hard. But, ported is the only way to go with the BTLs. Sealed would be awful... they simply arent designed for it and would be a monster midbass at that point with no bottom end at all. Thanks, Scott

Not a worry. Im not sure why but they simply must have marked on the wrong spot for that one. Was it with a blue marker over the SPL spot?

Got your email. Ill give you a call tomorrow. Just to check here too... Cookeville is Central time correct? I know there is two time zones in TN.

Both sound like interesting propositions. I personally would like to see you do an ABC with them. I have always enjoyed what they can do (if I was in the mood for a ported setup). 402 should be plenty of power for all 4 of them... Space isnt much of an issue then?

.25 cuft for the Havoc 18. Ill work up a sticky for this info over the weekend.