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I suck at putting vinyl on boxes

the subs in I'm using are not ib.

No my plan isn't to re vinyl or carpet I would like to paint it glossy black... All my other equipment Is glossy black trying to match it all.

no wind effect lol just a chest full of low bass. Sealing two of the holes off and only running two 18's in it

whats the net volume per zcon?

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worked two and half hours and only removed a small section of glue..and still some little glue spots left over. Uploaded with ImageShack.us

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I would take pics but its dark out atm and wouldn't look very detailed...screw it ill try lol.

lol tried that I was using like 12grit sandpaper didn't EVEN phase it!

You really don't need anything super powerful for DIY ht builds the "STEREO INTEGRITY ht sub" is what everybody has been using. Not really expensive either 240shipped and it can handle 1krms clean power easy so can the obsidian. Im running two 18inch obsidian audio's 6cubes net after port and sub displacement each ported and its way too small still.

look for a used amp. You can save more coin.

Damn just was at the bar last night get jäger on tap sooooo good!

Just put some on the front tear and behind it. Let it dry over night or a couple of days if your worried. AMAZING GOOPED my 18zcon 8months later solid as a rock!

Just wait dude lol

Those subs are stolen!

165 for a pair lol?

BC I'm planning on using 4 So you have a budget of $800 total for amps for your subs, and want the most power you can get? Do you have an additional budget to upgrade your electrical? Doesn't make much sense to drop $800 for a bunch of amps if your electrical isn't up to par, and I highly doubt replacing the battery with an AGM is going to be enough. I'm not trying to be rude but if you would read I will upgrade electrical That is not included in budget as I was always planning on it and just dont see the use in rerplacing a functional battery that has not faultered a bit with what i am running currently. I am already running 3 amps on it i plan on changing them all out to a better line possably same manufacturer. If you would have read you would notice that my current budgetis non existent so I am simply trying to get a broader range of ideas. In the past I've done big high quality comp builds going back to 96 wit RF Punch Power DVC 4-12's off 2 Punch Power 50M's on stock electrical wihout issues so Ill address alt if needed I plan on Battery upgrades that is not included in the amp budget. I do not have a hard limit im simply trying to see what I can getr away with. I read that you mentioned upgrading the battery, nothing more. I apologize for not catching the inference for further electrical upgrades. Other than Big 3 and Battery what do you suggest. I'm just curious what your recomendations are. Do you have a degree or masters liscense in Eletrical fields. I do I have done some calculations already so please enlighten me but I doubt your expertise isnt close to my background in this field. But please I want to hear your suggestion Unfortunately I do not have a degree in EE, so please feel free to take anything I say with a grain of salt. I've heard fast food is bad for health, but I'm not a doctor either! Anyhow let me speculate, and correct me when I'm wrong. You have four sundown X's rated for 1250watts each, so optimally you'd like 5000watts total for your subs since that's what they're rated for? With zero change in impedance, and 100% efficiency from the amp(s) that would require 5000w/14.4v=347amperes Say I'm being over optimistic, and you'd be happy with 2500watts, 2500w/14.4v=174amperes From what I could gather(which may be incorrect), the 07 mini coopers have an alternator rated for 105amperes, and it's not common for manufacturer's to use larger than necessary alternators as it's not cost effective and doesn't help with the HP and mpg. So I would presume that upwards of 80-90% of what the alternator is rated for is what the stock electrical demands, but let's say it only uses half, so 105a/2=50amperes. So you have 50amperes from the alternator, and say you have a big AGM battery like the xs power 5100 with an AH rating of 60, so for one hour it can discharge 60amperes at 12v? Let's pretend it could do that at 14v though. So for one hour you have ~110amps. 110amps is a lot less than 170amps or 350amps, so much so that voltage would quickly drop below 12v, you would risk ruining all electronics, and ultimately end up with a dead battery. Back to reality, the alt doesn't have a 50% excess in amperage, your amps aren't anywhere near 100% efficient, impedance on the amps aren't constant, and I didn't account for any amps you may be using for the front stage. So my suggestion would be getting a high output alternator if you plan on running anywhere near my speculated figures of power. I originally asked why you wanted to use two amplifiers, when one amplifier alone could easily surpass your vehicle's electrical. If your original post was clearer than perhaps I wouldn't have "ragged" on you about trying to use so much power with little change to the electrical system. I know if I were in your shoes I would most likely opt for a smaller amplifier that doesn't require all these costly upgrades as the amount spent and the gain in output wouldn't be worth it to me, and especially considering all the cone area you have available. Though as you have pointed out I don't have any degree to support anything I've said, so feel free to disagree. and thats why volvos are the best ladies and gentleman!

Should varnish that box a couple times give it a sexy mirror finish on it

Yep wiring won't cause it.

Any thick or small foam works wonders! I used refrigerator filters before found laying around stuff does wonders!

Only reason wiring could of been the problem if it had alo of resistance in it and voltage was droping low causing clipping. What was your voltage drop?

I'm jealous now on your crossover route your taking sounds fantastic way to go about it

So you figured in the cubic area for each speaker. What's the crossover your going to be running for them?