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yea true haha tryin so hard to get it out of you shizzzon but not gonna happen huh lol, its ok though ill contact dc tomarrow and get some quotes and take it from there, if i can sell my bl with box for the price of a xl them i might just have to check them out and later add another

hmmm that sounds pretty nice, am i looking at around $450 each

damn shizzzon your crazy lol, just really wish i knew a price range so i can start deciding on what i want to do because i absolusly loved the sound of those xls, ok how about are they more or less then a 12 fully loaded bl shipped? if more within 100$

hahaha yea the guy that had 2 12" xls was running a dc 9k to them which is around what 4-5k rms which is damn impressive and was slammin them all day long

exactly, people just hate on a company because they perffer a different one, that doesnt make them bad just not for them, to me i like to hear them all and decide for myself what i like. SSA is my home for subage and really wish to hear there subs but until then dc is the best iv heard so far for me. around here people run kicker and mtx on the streets, this meet was my first and i got to hear something else besides my fi bl and i loved it. doesnt mean once i hear a ssa sub that ill be in love with them now haha , anyone wanna give me some demos of some badass zcon setups hehe

exactly, and that is why i want to hear some zcons now , was hoping there would be a couple ssa guys out at the meet but i didnt see anything except dc cuz it was a flex issues comp

wow in a scion tc? hahahahaha damn shizzzon are you tryna kill yourself lol jk but all in all i dont see why people bag on this company or this company, to me there all good and everyone has thier own perfered company, i didnt think there was anything wrong with dc, sounded good and got damn low, now i just want to hear some ssa subs

ths guys widshield broke while hittin 155 with 4 18 dc xls

Wow i really hope to see some SSA members out here in bakersfield, ill be reppin

So who all is going to be there, gonna be a 1x show with alot of cool rides and setups. Anyone from SSA gonna be there? Will be at the golden state mall in bakersfield california

147?? hmmm

alright guys so iv decided i wont be getting a zcon because i just wont have the electrical for it. what i have is 1200 watts that my eletrical can handle at ease. Im going to sell my bl to fund my next build. Im thinking of instead of getting just 1 sub id like to get 2 12" subs that do around 1200 watts conbined so around 600 each. im trying to get the loudest i can off of 1200 watts pretty much. I was thinking of either 2 ssd, 2 sa12 or 2 w7 but would take alot of saving up lol. I absolutly loved how my 1 12w7 sounded the real deep rich lows with rumble. I see the icon doesnt come in a 12" but id consider it if it did since there about 600 watts each. Or if you guys have any other suggestions for 2 12" subs around 600 watts each that will get pretty loud but still have that great sound to them feel free to add to it and give your opinion. Thanks SSA

awsome setup man, Im hoping once i get a second 12" bl on 1200 each i could be somewhere near this flex haha

Yes i bought a cig lighter volt meter and when my car is at idle it stays inbetween 12.7-13.2, when im dringing it will go up to 14v but no higher, its weird cuz when i turn on the ac it drops almost half a volt but when im playing my system at full tilt it doesnt drop at all, maybe its not accurate but idk, still not the voltage i want cuz when i stop at a light or something it will go down to 13v. I have a 70a alt which is very small and i just dont want to destroy it

Yea thats true a couple hundred wouldnt really matter to the ear, may be better to just do the 1000 x 2, I had a question about an alt also, right now i have a 70a alt on my 05 honda civic which is puny! im planning on getting a 180a dc power alt and was wondering, when i order one do i need anything else? does the alt come with everything you need to assemble, or do i need a belt, pully, any brackets? the 180 is the biggest dc makes for my car and i hope it will function properly in my little civic

i have thought of that but i have all the options for the bl so the power handling is probably increased a little bit. I am really taking to my bl now that it is working properly, thinking once i get the funds to get a h.o alt im going to add another bl to my setup

ok cool thanks thats what i thought, going to get the gain set up tonight and then it will be all tuned in and ready to listen too finally after 2 months lol Ok so it would be 2400 then find the square root of that which is about 47, so when i hook up my dmm keep all setting how i will have them turn h/u 3/4 then slowly turn gain up until i see about 47, thinking maybe put it at 45-46 to be on the safe side? Trying to keep my equipment for a good time without it blowing up

ok so it says times the rms of amp output by the speaker impedence. i have a dual 1 ohm sub thats wired at 2 ohms. so do i do 1200watts x 1ohm or 2ohms?

if i use a dmm what kinda numbers am i looking for, i know to turn h/u volume to 3/4 and then slowly turn gain up but when do i know when to stop with the dmm

Lol yes it actually sounds like a real subwoofer now without it being on input slave hahaha, just wish i could see if my gain is anywhere near where it should be but for now its pretty damn loud

Yes i have my lpf turned all the way up on amp and have my headunit set at 80hz, my subsonic filter is set to 30 and box is tuned to 33hz, the gain is half way up but it does sound really good, could prob go a lil more up but i dont like to set things right on the edge of not being safe

Wow in that little honda civic hahaha your gonna destroy that car before it even has a chance to break in , tuned in for this one, iv got a 05 honda civic 4 door, i couldnt imagine 3 xcons in a 2door lol

Cygnus didnt you already make this same exact post a few weeks ago and didnt we give you every option that would work with your amp? If you dont want to take anyones advise then why ask again? we went through this with you that a 12" sub would work alot better in a 2.5 cuft box then a 15 in a waay too small of a box. If your going to ask for help then take the advise that people give you. These people here at SSA are very knowledgable and will help you out as much as they can, as far as kicker and mtx, the subs they list for you will destroy them in any and every way. Keep that in mind and goodluck to you

Nah, im commenting on the "well, i never really heard them, but im sure you can get the same for less" Shit makes no sense. Well that is absolutly true, jl does overprice there stuff quite a bit, i used to run a 12w7 in a 2cuft ported box with 1300 watts going to it and it did sound very good and hit lows like a mother, but im sure the Fi Q does the same thing for half the price and many other subs. W7 is a great sub but it would be alot better if it were like 300-400 bucks. Yes i will never have anyone do work on my stereo again unless its me . really starting to take to the BL, just needa see if it hits the lows like i like because i LOVE my lows

haha yea i only got to hear it for a few minutes after i fixed that crap they did, i called them up today and told them they will never get my business again and how can they run a shop and not no anymore then a baby would about setting gains lol. So pretty much today i got a new bl and gonna see how it does in my civic, will post again when i come to a conclusion, Thanks SSA and everyone for showing me the right way to setup gains cuz if i never knew for myself i woulda left it how they had it and woulda had a blown sub within months.....or weeks!!