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both are facing the trunk with the back seats down

its in a 05 honda civic, i have about 33in long 16in high and depth is very big maybe 26-28in, i understand its all about install dependant, box will be built by a builder here on ssa, power will be enough and electrical will be up to par

well i already have one, just debating of if i want to get another bl or sell it and get 2 different subs, i want this setup to satisfy me for a long time because i dont have alot of money to try diff stuff which id love to be able too lol, if it were me with money id get 2 12" zcons and call it a day but just cant. Just dont know if i want to experience new stuff or just get louder with same sound

guess your right, just was wondering what are some other subs that are 1000 watts that will stand up with the bl, for instance will a xcon get as loud or louder then a bl or will the sound quality be better but then how much louder would it be

oh shit scetch that i read wrong it means the 4500 was disconntinued haha wow brain fart!!

7th post by swagger wagon, says he would have to get used because they are diconntinued

So today i heard that the zcons are not in production anymore . Anyone have any idea why they took them off?

set the dial directly in the middle then turn a tad counter clockwise and you should be good. if you have the lpf off on your headunit then turn the lpf on the amp to about 80hz or so

Id say you can buy my Alpine pdx f4 (100 wrms @ 2-4ohms) and make a worlds difference and call it a day. But dont think you wanna go that far yet

alright guys well i think my stock civic door speakers finally had enough of my abuse. They are 5 1/4iches, my door panel is really shallow on my civic so im kinda limited on what i can stick in there. also when i first got my honda the speakers sounded like crap and hardly got loud. Once i put in my new h/u they sounded 10x better and got really loud, so im pron going to not use an amp for now as i dont think i need one. So i need some nice pretty shallow speakers maybe no more depth then 2 1/4 inches. What would you gets recommend that around 25-35 wrms that sound nice and get loud. Anything will be takin into account. Thanks guys

the Audioque is also a great amp, i run a aq2200 and it has never even gottin slightly warm. Sundown would be the best but is a little more expensive, just depends on how much more your willing to spend and what company you want to have run your setup.

hey angel i gots a smaller sub that you would love to trade for that nightshade, nice and shallow hahaha

trade you a bl in a ported box for one of them ns's

oh yea man those are some nice subs, thank god they didnt get stolen with your car. Have you hooked them up yet? do you not like them? id take em if i had the money

lol too funny how jumpy people are.... Those are some nice subs man, id keep em for your next build, unless your going bigger

Iv heard dc subs like small enclosures. the xl 12" only rec. 1.5 each

lol yep or a very good loud alarm. Once i started in car audio i realized a car alarm for 100 bucks is well worth it to protect my equipement. Goodluck brotherin

Lol man id be so pissed if i were with some ladies how embarrassing haha, but yea angel all you can do is try sometimes you get lucky sometimes you dont, but once you catch that fool he deserves a ass whopping

My damn bicycle bro hahahahaha i was hatin life, and mostly just got rides from friends

hahaha seriously man its ridiculous people like to snap at anything anyone does or says wrong when really it has nothing to do with this topic

I found it 2 months later in a parking lot abansont, man dont even trip you werent in the wrong you got your car stolen by someone who doesnt deserve a can of beans for dinner, You all know if you got your hard earned money stolen by someone like that you would be pissed too. He said he was sorry and thats that, really not a big deal, i think this thread got way off topic. I hope you find your car man, remember just cuz the police will bust you doesnt mean they wont also help you when you need it just keep on searching my friend

well not quite, i think the bls are ment to get loud if anything, the Q series are the ones that drop low low along with the ssd. Dont get me wrong they get low but now as much as some with that deep rumble

damn man that sucks i remember when i got my car stolen a while back with my 2 12" memphis pr subs and boy was i pissed haha. It just sucks when you work for something and then get it takin by someone with no morals or respect for anything so im not surprised it slipped. I went searching for days and had the police looking too, finally they found it and everything was gone in it but it gave me the chance to start over and i wouldnt be in this forum today if i didnt need new subs

oh yes i totally understand this shizzzon i was just saying i liked how it sounded, not trying to get louder or anything just seemed like they hit the lows better just like the q isnt louder then the bl but the q hits lows better then the bl, iv noticed im more of a lows guy i love seein that tiny honda roof flexin like a mug haha, and also thats what subs are all about trying out new stuff and getting to know what certain subs can do and what they cant do. Its like i can either get another bl and just be louder or sell it and get 2 dc and have a complete different sound, my next step i want to keep for a while so do i want to keep the same sound just louder or try out something new ya know