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From: Used, B-Stock, Refurbished Amps, and MISC
sundownz replied to sundownz's topic in Test 1, 2, 3...
If it's still on the list I still have it. I will mark items as sold when they are sold/ -
I am going to revise my suggestions a bit... honestly 0.5 - 0.7 should be used for pretty much ANY power level. Based on more real world testing with customers -- a heavily abused SA-8 can mechanically damage itself in the larger boxes even on lower power.
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From: Used, B-Stock, Refurbished Amps, and MISC
sundownz replied to sundownz's topic in Test 1, 2, 3...
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For the most part Team membership is for SPL competitors - with a few exceptions for large builds that don't necessarily hit the lanes. Although, 90% of the emails I get for Team membership include zero SPL experience.
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* 8, 10, 12, 15 left to right * 8 and 10 * 10 and 12 * 12 and 15 * Close-up of SA-10 cone / surround --- 15s are not yet available... likely will be around end of the year.
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I know it's way early, but have you set any price on these and have any specs for enclosure size been tested? I assume they will come in D2 & D4 configurations. Boxes similar to the Nightshades... so about 3 cubes ported. Could go a bit smaller if needed - to 2.5 to 2.75 I haven't set pricing yet.
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15s should debut around years end.
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Okay guys... ran through a TON this morning and I have less than 10 not replied to. So almost everyone should be taken care of. I am delegating some emails to Brandon for responses so don't be shocked if you hear back from him and not me Thanks for your patience everyone!
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Was caught up for a short time but they are backing up again - have been pulled away to build alot of subs recently... Nightshade v.2 orders are coming in quick. In any event - be patient if you have emailed me and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
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Funny thing... coils aren't totally destroyed, just really black. Did not completely unwind yet. The one on the right started to come unwound a little at the top -- both coils still read but read lower than they should (shorted windings). The one on the left still reads normally on both coils ! The former got so hot it bubbled out - this is why they locked up at the end of the video. We hadn't quite reached total coil melt-down yet - but we had exceeded what the former will handle !
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It's not an amp - that is why We put the guts of a 1500-watt light dimmer inside that case and used the terminals as connections for it. This way we can adjust the power coming from the wall socket to the woofer.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0eZj82gI0 Here we are cutting up the Type-R.
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Once I finalize a few tweaks to the thermal design of the SA series I will begin production... so within a month I think.
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So it's not a total waste I took some pictures of the Type-R after we blew it... Brandon took the hammer to it before I got many "before" pictures *laughs* It is worth nothing that you cannot remote the Type-R motor from the frame as far as we could tell. * Around the edges you can see where air vents to the outside in the slits between the top plate. * The special curve on the pole flattens BL * One piece frame / shorting ring assembly... the magnet was busted out to see this... magnet is multiple V shaped pieces.
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Well here it is... I was very sad that it didn't last longer thermally : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os4TZTpLNSI "Done to compare with SA-12 results... we dialed in power as close as we could but the Type-R didn't last long. Few samples of actual power applied : 28 seconds = 497 watts / 51 seconds = 667 watts / 1 minute 18 seconds = 717 watts -- woofer didn't last much longer when exposed to a hair over 700 watts. Conclusion... SA-12 coil cooling is more effective."
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I'm not planning to test other brand subs at the moment... but I was interested in the Type-R for my own information as I was actually pretty impressed with the design behind it. Still am impressed with the way Alpine worked a one piece frame / shorting ring into it... split magnets are cool too... as is the nice BL curve. But I was let down that it wasn't stronger thermally.
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A bit saddened... the brand new Alpine Type-R failed after about 1.5 minutes of the same testing (as close as we could get it anyway). I'll put the videos up after lunch for that.
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This is the voltage adjustment rig - Brandon's custom creation
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So... how many people want 15s ?!
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Building a pair right now... on that note - I really do not plan to make any more of these until I get the spiders I'm designing for 10s as it is a bit of a pain in the butt to make these! In any event - someone talked me into making them a pair so here are a few pics :
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Glad I can help.
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The power clamp reads in kW -- so 0.90, for example, is 900 watts. I kept playing it for 5 or 6 more iterations of the track after the video as I always measure T/S on at least one woofer per run to make sure everything is on track. I've already measured this one once but I've been breaking it in more to measure again
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I am designing both -- and both will be excellent quality. I just don't have an ETA for either.
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Good stuff Walt !
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Just tried the same thing with a brand new Type-R... a D4 model even (this is a D2 SA)... already started to break the triple joint.