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The old NS v.1 is 1500-watts RMS ; the v.2 is 2000-watts RMS The Z v.3 will be 1500-watts RMS

I'd say a 1000-watt rating would be reasonable with the "NSQ" coil considering how effective the motor ventilation is -- but certainly not 2000 anymore

Awesome - glad the items made it okay !

The pre-order is for v.1 SA-8s with the newer frame style.

I have something special in the works for the v.2 of the SA-8 I decided that nothing I've tried yet makes me say "DAMN... that sure beats the first version hands down!" -- so I'm going farther with it before release. This will drive cost up... but IMO will be totally worth it. I may be able to bump power handling up to 600 RMS to match the other sizes of the SA series. Stay tuned.

I expect the Qts to be somewhere in the 0.35 to 0.45 range -- may take a couple tries on the spiders to nail it... but I'm shooting for a flexible sealed / ported capable driver with a pretty low Fs.

16mm / 8-layer copper

I really am not sure that something like this would sell at all but I sure as heck want one for my car :fing34:

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If the awesome factor is high enough I may even offer an "NSQ" woofer setup this way Of course it will be one of the worlds biggest, heaviest, and deepest SQ drivers *laughs*

http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/sundown-audio/90372-fun-little-sq-project-im-starting-today.html audioarsenal got really close so I let the cat out of the bag ! NS v.2 motor with added pole sleeve and underhung coil.

I haven't put one back together... we have Taco and Paco testing all the SA subs in stock currently to get them all together.

Nightshade line has a higher motor force, more linear x-max, and a bit more maximum thermal power handling.

The are sold out for now -- but can be ordered early if you like. You could e-mail Aaron or Mark.

Hey guys -- our Z v.2 line is now SOLD OUT. If you have a super emergency need for one I can dig up some used motors from our legendary "sea of woofers" in the top secret back room... but as for new that is it for them! People that have *already* ordered them or already asked me should be good but no new sales will be available unless a used motor will do. Z v.3 motors are coming in with the next container of SA woofers and SD-2 woofers in ~90 days... we will be doing final assembly here in Troutman, NC for at least several hundred units. I am pleased with the legacy of the Z v.2 line -- we actually sold more of these than the Nightshade v.1 line (seems like everyone has had or does have an NS v.1) with much more sales going to local dealers and customers outside of the Team. I think the Z v.3 line will be another good step in the right direction for what out customers are asking for out of a 1500-watt daily woofer

You will have a flatter overall response with the SA-12 sealed. Of course Pink Floyd and Styx don't really have a ton of bass to being with -- so you'll need to use the sub control on your HU or amp remote gain knob to boost those songs up.

* An SAZ-4500D next to a pair of NS-1 prototypes. * NS-1 has speaker outputs on the other side. * Little SAE-500D Prototype hanging out -- this is not the final case; just have not tooled up the case I'll use yet. * SAE-500D guts -- stout little amp. * Guts of 4500D and NS-1 * Guts from the other side. * Top view of the guts. * Significantly larger output inductors on the NS-1 to handle the additional power output. * While the NS-1 has fewer transformers they are much bigger. I have not been able to locate my power clamp so no testing on either yet. I'll keep looking for it... not sure I'll be able to get to the NS-1 today or not due to the electrical requirements and the power handling requirements of something to test it on. Will have to set something up just to test it.

We are working out the coil details still -- making it longer than the original is going to be challenging for a D1 coil

Some initial NS-1 testing in Brandon's truck -- we haven't gone in depth yet to see if we can squeeze more out of it; just a quick initial test before we head home today. Best clamp was 6090 watts @ 1.3 ohm actual @ 12.1 volts actual using my Extech True RMS power clamp meter about 6-8 seconds into the tone to avoid picking up initial spikes. I think we have more left in it - more testing to come as we get it dialed in a bit! 380976 - Single Phase/Three Phase 1000A AC Power Clamp Meter : This is the clamp I use here for product testing. You will find it reads much lower than using two normal clamp meters separately for voltage and current as this meter was made to measure power. So not directly comparable to any other testing but my own with the same clamp.

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Prototypes arrived today... working on doing full break-in to measure official specs. Honestly I am super happy with the prototypes -- I do plan to tool a magnet boot and put our logo on the cap but I don't think any other changes are needed at all. SD-2 12" Measured Mounting Depth = 5.25" SD-2 10" Measured Mounting Depth = 4.75" ----- Early price estimates -- MAP price (actual price paid from dealer) (SA cost for comparison) SA-10 v.1 : $185 SA-12 v.1 : $195 SD-2 10 : $150 SD-2 12 : $160 Pre-ordering would be something like : SD-2 10 : $115 SD-2 12 : $125 That would be shipped in the continental 48 states. Once I do some testing we'll have an ETA and a time when pre-ordering will begin. ----- * Quite a bit less depth than the SA series for depth restricted applications.

Pre-ordering will open soon on these guys! Who is excited ?

The same box will do fine for them.

I'll likely be doing testing next week on the NS-1. The 4500D was 1625 MAP and the NS-1 will be about 1900 MAP from an authorized dealer. The NS-1 actual power is expected to be ~7k on a 12v system and ~9-10k on an 18v system -- actual testing pending to make sure the design performs as expected in real applications. I expect that we'll likely see most of these in Team Sundown / Team Sundown Russia vehicles -- with the way our Russian friends are going they might have more of them than we will in the USA