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We put a set in a customers car today and they are stupid loud... awesome mid-bass output as well; I was actually pretty stunned by how much they were putting out. We have about 200 RMS rated per side on them and 200 RMS rated on a set of Selenium ST-350 tweeters; two bridged (8 ohms bridged per pair of channels) 4-channel full-range Class-D prototype amps (no ETA, no price, don't ask, *laughs*).

Power is not necessarily identical between them -- specific power wasn't a concern. It's near-field really close to the cone, though, for reference. There was no baffle for the test.

Depends on when I start production (Neo Costs) on price -- the bad news is they won't be cheaper than the 8s or 10s unless Neo falls before I start production. Cost is way up and we'll have to re-price the 8s and 10s for the second run (good news on those is I got a TON of them when Neo was cheaper so that will be a while). They are 100 RMS like the 8s.

Plenty.

Production should be wrapping up August 25th so by the time containers are loaded and they arrive to my door we are looking at the third or fourth week of September to arrive here (last container took ~30 days from sailing to arrive at our shop) -- so all is looking good.

I shipped some 10s for California for SSA last Friday; I imagine they could be yours.

Below text compose by Mike Bruno for the sale of these drivers. We are not re-building them; Mike is. All after sales support will be handled by Mike by his terms on these refurbished drivers. PM: woofercooker – or preferably – e-mail: [email protected] for inquiries. ---------- I will be selling Sundown’s inventory of SA-8s that have either failed quality control testing or were returned by customers. Each of these woofers were tested by Jacob and found to have a defect in the coil alignment or other cosmetic / performance defects. I will be refurbishing these woofers with the latest OEM SA-8 parts and reselling them to the public. Many of these have never been mounted or powered other than to check for coil alignment or other defects; some are warranty returns so will be used motors, though. Buyers will receive 100% fully functional refurbished Sundown Audio SA-8 woofers. As I said, some of these have been used before so there may be some signs of use on the motors. The baskets and soft parts are all guaranteed to be brand new. Available in D2 and D4 coils. D2 Model : RE: 3.28 ohms (series) FS: 41.6 Hz Qes: 0.513 Qms: 6.606 Qts: 0.476 Le: 2.778 mH Vas: 3.285 L BL: 17.138 N/A Cms: 83.341 um/N Mms: 175.654 g Sens: 78.476 dB @ 1w/1m BL^2/RE: 89.5 D4 Model : RE: 6.08 ohms Fs: 44.66 Hz Qes: 0.594 Qms: 6.337 Qts: 0.545 Le: 4.26 mH VAS: 4.44 L BL: 21.20 N/A Cms: 80.8 uM/N Mms: 157 g Sens: 80.06 @ 1w/1m BL^2/RE: 73.92 Price: $85 each + shipping (shipping ranges from $12-$25 per woofer in the lower 48 states). I will give out quotes to anyone who contacts me with their zip. Payments are accepted through paypal.

As mentioned in the for sale all I could recall was high Qts on it -- we had good luck out of it in about 1 cube sealed despite what a box model program says that will do Nick Lemons (Stereo Integrity) borrowed it for a while and reported that it was an enjoyable listen.

Orders ship in a few business days. By big order we mean the SA-8 pre-orders; of which there were a few 100 pieces to test and ship out. There are not 100 people in the shipping and testing departments; only so many boxes can be pulled, tested, and labelled in the same day. Your order will ship out shortly (eg: today).

Yes.

All SA-8 pre-orders have shipped.

4500s are going fast.

D2 is together... specs are closing in on where I want to be -- based on what I got from this D2 I think the D1 coil should be correct out of the gate and that the D2 will be good with a tad bit of tweaking : D2 Revision 1 Coil Specs with 5-layer Z v.3 spider (Z v.3 uses 4 layers) : RE : 2.93 ohms (series) FS: 36.87 Hz QES: 0.329 QMS: 4.326 QTS: 0.306 LE: 6.53 mH (still a bit high but we'll work on the shorting rings on another prototype to get this down) VAS: 43.24 L BL: 28.128 NA MMS: 383 g CMS: 48.56 uM/N SENS: 89.93 dB 1w/1m BL^2/RE: 270 (goal is 300 or so for this driver... revised coil should do it) I'll do some beating on it soon... have tons of SA-8s to ship... took a short break to pull specs and post them.

Posted by Greg Kashin over on CACO Originally : ---------- Just got back from the IASCA\RASCA national finals...12 hour ride back, it's 4 am here...not gonna say much, watch the vid...wait for the complete buildlog which will come later this week this is the first 160db's for Team Sundown Russia. Advanced NW. single 18" woofer - Sundown Nightshade v2 18" two NS-1 amps strapped to 0.5 XS Power batteries Shok Industries wires this is also the new national record for the class we clamped 20k+ from the amps ----- another shot.... let's you see the inside at the end ---------- My Comments : NOTE : 20k from the pair of amps... small 16v bank; the drop was into the 13s IIRC. Nightshade v.2 is taking it pretty well too

It really is that thick.

The D2 coils are in ! 12-layers of fury

http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/sundown-audio/93918-sundown-yard-sale-updated-8-1-11-a.html * UPDATED LIST TO BE KEPT ON CACO so I don't have to update every forum. As of this morning : I am not interested in re-building ANY of these items before shipping them out due to time contstraints -- refer to a service like FixMySpeaker or your favorite custom builder for that -- I can ship directly to either if you like. * TRF Motor and Basket - $350 shipped in continental 48 states * MINI NEO MOTORS - $250 each shipped in continental 48 states * One is built as a sort of rigged up 8" for some testing we did * These are XBL^2 enabled motors made for 12-layer flat coils... which I do have a few of in stock for $20 each on coils * These do come with the baskets as pictured * 3" Coil Ferrite Motors with 3" coil opening - $125 each shipped in continental 48 states * These do come with the baskets as pictured * RE SE Motor and Basket - $75 + SH * SMD 15" Dual-1 - $600 + SH * "X-12" Motors and baskets -- like 3" coil SA -- $100 + SH each ----------- 7x D1000s -- 200 shipped each 1x D1000 -- 160 shipped (needs re-threaded) 4x D1600s (the other six are mine) -- 225 shipped each All rest at 16.7v or higher * Approx 560 feet of wire (550-575 range due to rounding) * Mix of Stinger Expert, Stinger Flex, and Knu Flex * I want to sell it ALL TOGETHER... crazy price of $1000 + SH for it all... that is just over 1.75 per foot AND there are TONS of ring terminals. * I may split it up later but want to sell it all together. We had shop assistant Pedro measure and round off to the nearest 0.5 foot on all that is there : Red Expert : 9x 17.5 feet 3x 5.5 feet 6x 8 feet 5x 3.5 feet Black Expert: 2x 18.5 feet 5x 7.5 feet 2x 5.5 feet 1x 3.5 feet 5x 2.5 feet Blue Flex: 2x 8 feet 7x 6.5 feet 6x 5 feet 4x 3.5 feet 4x 2.5 feet Grey Flex: 4x 9.5 feet 5x 6.5 feet 4x 5 feet 5x 3.5 feet 5x 2.5 feet

Updated as of 8/1/11

I'm sure that would be possible.

I hate spades as well -- but the push terminals are super close to the mounting lip, seem to get damaged easily, and also are much harder to bend down than the other sizes (may cause production issue).

Some pics from the latest production run that was recently on pre-order that is due end of July to first of August. These have all of the updates to date on the v.1 plus : 1) New slightly taller spacer ring with full Sundown logo (few mm extra for SPL burps) 2) New revised cast frame with better clearances They are compatible with other SA-8s made to date as these are still a v.1 model.

Once I get them made we'll have plenty; we haven't ran out of the 8s or 10s yet Just a matter of time on them.

So an interesting project came my way... a client asked me to try out some of the NeoPro speakers for Guitar purposes... which I have had a few folks try them for bass guitar and like them but not regular electric guitar. Client comes back to me stating the NeoPro drivers are entirely too clean and then lends me an old vintage speaker that he considers the "driver to have" for this application -- which is tube amplifier electric guitar. So I analyzed it a bit... and came up with this : * Ribbed, thin paper cone with very small dust cap * Actual paper surround - one piece with the cone * Low excursion spider with completely un-vented frame * Un-vented motor Many of the design elements are to purposely introduce distortion -- as this is what Guitar guys seem to like. In any event... I am not a guitar player so I won't have more thoughts until the client tries it out and lets me know. You never know... we may be doing Guitar speakers if all goes well

Some more actual pics now that I have them... I may go to the old style spade connectors for the 6.5" as the sprint terminals don't work as well on this frame as the other sizes... but otherwise pretty happy with them so far :