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I wouldn't call it misleading... the pics show what the testing was done in I also don't have any "normal vehicles" on hand capable of supplying the juice to the amps to produce that kind of power... at least not anyone with test equipment like Sean has laying around. It is quite likely I could replicate that number in my Civic with a proper box, though, as that was a low-tuned box not optimized for SPL in any manner... too much bracing (turbulence) and too small of a port (only 36 in^2 of area). Once I have an engine, alternator, and batteries in the Civic I'll be posting some testing from it.

MSRP is going to be around $649 on the 12" and $699 on the 15" model. There will probably be a pre-sale offer and, as always, dealers can be contacted directly for price quotes.

Well, the daily testing will be on 4 SAZ-1500's at .5 in a folded horn tuned to around 34hz......Of course it'll be metered also with that low of tuning. Excellent Your trunk is no normal trunk

The only proto has been sent out to a Team Sundown member, sorry Once I get production models I should be able to test 12.8 volt power in my Civic as it will be up and running by then.

I try my best

We had 4x SAZ-1500Ds @ 1/2 ohm each. This was also in a truck with concrete re-inforced walls and 8 huge battieries. Yours is in a trunk with one amp with way less power... so don't feel bad.

That will be a great combo, although two would work very well with even just an SAX-100.2 as they are quite efficient.

That might have to wait until I get the production models so I have an electrical system capable of doing the testing on hand.

They will be in around 2.5 - 3 months from now if everything goes smoothly.

Woops. I knew I forgot something, I'll send em' tonight.

Nominal was under 1 ohm, but actual impedance was above 1 ohm. I will be doing more testing down the line.

Excellent. I am expecting good things from the revised cone, suspension, and coil. Since I tore up the 15 before you got to try it I'll let you have the 12 first this time for sure! May have to meet you somewhere and drop it off since it's very heavy and I'd hate to ship it around more than necessary and risk breaking it

As for the sound deadening I meant in my car The little civic has roughly $1k in sound dampening. The basement simply has concrete filled cinder block walls, that really doesn't let out much sound.

That is due to Sean's setup. With the woofer sitting in the wall like that it is effectively a really crazy 4th order bandpass. I really wanted to test it's limits and durability before giving it the thumbs up, there is no telling what end users will do to it It's not an SPL woofer... it actually sounds great. It was made to sound good, and it does that. It was also made to tolerate abuse, which it also does. A third goal was efficiency, again, it does that too. This adds up to great SPL scores even though it is a great sounding little woofer.

No ETA on pre-orders and I am still limiting information as slight changes may be made to this before production starts. You could run two on an SAE-1000D with properly set gains and some sense behind the volume knob. You would have enough power to potentially damage the sub if continually driven to max output levels. If you have some sense you won't hurt them, though... I've been beating on the proto with a single SAZ-1500D @ 2 ohms quite a bit and that is capable of over 900 watts. Just get to know the sub and it's limits and know when to stop It's not a nearly indestructable beast like some of these new super woofers, but they are incredibly durable considering their pricing.

Will it work with the 12" model by chance? That proto hasn't shown up yet as it had to be rebuilt... it'll come in right off with the new parts in it since they had to re-build it anyway. If not, I'll get the 15" model out to you once it is re-coned

Excellent. The BTL is a monster... I bet the 10" version will look pretty weird, though

No plans for that at the moment. At first there will be a 12" and a 15" -- and even those are not scheduled in the immediate future.

The SAE-1000D power output specs are rated at 13.8 volts and match pretty much dead on what the amp will do at that voltage plus or minus a few watts based on build variances.

Fuses don't blow immediatly when you exceed their current capacity. They take a while to blow and generally will handle a fair amount more than rated current.

I do testing in my basement (concrete filled cinderblock construction), inside a car, with over 1000 dollars in sound deadening applied. I can test well into the night and nobody hears anything

The basket is staying chrome for sure. The 12" prototype should be coming in with the black anodized top and back plates (basket is still chrome). At that time I will make the final call on which I like best, and will ask on the forum as well for opinions... the full chrome suprised me on how good it looks so it is very tempting.

Not sure on that yet. I am a fan of subtle cones but may investigate other options. This woofer is not scheduled for immediate release so changes may happen.

Sure does... funny thing is I was trying to make a tweeter... *laughs* JK Jacob i have to ask, and you can pm me the answer if you want, but did Scott help you out at all with this sub, It looks like it has great potential to be an spl beast. Some similarities to a fully decked out btl, the triple stacked magnets etc... It's looks This woofer is not related to FI Audio or Scott in any way. The BTL is a beastly woofer, but this one is not related other than the fact that it is also a very large SPL geared woofer

The proto coil should be good for about 3000 watts RMS continuously for fairly long periods of time, 6000 watts for shorter bursts, and even more than that for "lane burps." The production model will be getting an even beefier coil, cone, and soft parts. If you do tear up the proto we'll call it R&D and keep improving the design based on what fails