bimmerboy

Kyle, Did this ship out yet? haven't received a tracking number...

If you can fit a 3 cube ported enclosure, def. take a look at the SA-15, its still on pre-order i believe. same price as the SA-12 and should do nicely in a 3cuft enclosure ported.... That is if you can fit a 15" in your car More "bang" for your buck

looks like the old Q or ssd b/c of the pole vent, hard to tell

Nice! thanks again for being so prompt

looks like you move some serious air, nice work!

And the wait begins

I would try to hear some of those subs you mentioned in real life, should give you a better idea of what you're looking for....XCON and BTL are pretty different from what I've read... Have you considered the BL? Are you set on keeping 1 18"?

Looks like it was a great time! So you are going with a PSI sub now? what kind?

Nice design

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No Problem Build will start as soon as i get my H/O alt. I agree, I literally stared at it for a good 20minutes the first time I opened it... Thanks! Thanks! I love the white logo, looks very clean.... Just weighed it today, 40lbs! Don't worry i will have PLENTY of vids of it... just gotta get my H/O alt first

You work at Fi? I dont have to go seal i just wanna use what i have... willl 2 18 bls in a 7.25^3 ft box be louder then one in a 6.5 ^3 ft box?

x2 Sounds awesome

holy crap nice flex! stock electrical? Hope you don't lose too much output by going in the trunk...

looking great! vids asap!

Agreed the BTL will be louder than the Q..... Still don't agree that a BTL is the best sub given the OP's goals and details (or lack thereof) From a monetary point of view it is asinine to reccomend this guy a BTL when he only wants to be louder than a 10" alpine X woofer..... So if you are on a budget you might want to look into other options... I realize you haven't set any budget constraints, but it might be better to look at the bigger, overall cost of your whole system and take into account all the different pieces (amp, enclosure, wiriing, battery/h.o. alt if needed, etc).. If you truly don't have any budget limitations, props to you lol Like myself and others have said, it really is all in the install and details.. things like an upgraded alternator (if needed), upgraded batteries (if needed), proper wiring, sufficient amp, proper enclosure size/tuning, sound deadening, proper enclosure placement, etc. all help in how your system sounds at the very end.... What sub you get is a small piece of a large puzzle in getting your system to sound optimal.. OP-I apologize if i spread any misinformation, didn't mean to... I'm continually learning as well... carry on

I agree, it is all in the install and application. Good luck OP

WTF? Not at all. Even with only 1w the BTL will be louder than any other sub Fi makes with 1w. Really simple. The BTL is made to get the loudest out of all of them, but indeed the enclosure makes WAY more difference than splitting hairs on the driver. edit: note I didn't say you can't get loud with the Icons, just was addressing the idiotic statement in bold I think Bimmerboy had the idea that the OP was going to power the BTL with at least the RMS of the sub, and not just 1w. In which case he would need to spend more money on electrical upgrades. You would use almost the same amount of power on 2 SSA Icons vs 1 Fi BTL, so regardless M5 was right. He is right about what he said, never said he was wrong, but i was just clearing up something. I'm pretty sure BimmerBoy had the idea that the OP was going to use 2000watts in his system. Yes, why buy a BTL and throw 1000rms on it Giving yourself headroom with your AMP is one thing, but why buy a 2000 RMS woofer if you will ONLY use it at 1000rms? Its not like Fi overrates their subs, so if ur goals are to use aronud 1k power, why not save $$ and get a BL instead of the BTL? Also, how would 2 12" SSDs or even ICONs at 1000rms total not be atleast equal to or louder than 1 12" BTL at 1000rms, what about cone area etc... Regardless of what OP decides, good luck! Didn't mean to rain on your parade...

IDK i don't think the best option is to just buy whatever is the most expensive... its all in the details IMO and that requires research and experience. Its like some 16 yr old coming here after just having their license for a couple of months and asking what kinda sports car to buy, would all of you seriously reccomend the most expensive and fastest car out there? Same principal applies to this situation, the OP does NOT need to get a BTL to be loud... IMO its all in the details, and giving 1000rms to a BTL would be kinda lame dont you think M5? why not just get a BL then? they are also rated at 1000rms?

If you just want to be louder than two apline X 10" subs you could get 2 SSA ICONs and be fine....Don't waste your money on the BTL, its def. for people who are experienced and know what they are doing.... The amount of power it requires is a serious investment not only in your amplifier but also your car and its electrical system. Why not start with something more simple, like I said, look into SSA ICON, Sundown SA series or even Fi SSD series, 2 of those at a 12 or 15" would pound, especially in a khaotic ported enclosure! Use the money you save and upgrade your electrical (alt., battery) and if you still aren't satisfied, go with some BTLs

That's highly doubtful that that would be the manufacturers fault. They wouldn't ship out a crap box. Whatever shipping company shipped it is careless. Didn't say it was...

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