I figured it was beastly enought to almost be a comparison.. Wow i didnt know it was that close... I mean one 15 RL-p is half the price, thats why i compared the two, because they would be the price of 1 mag...I figured one mag could compared to One RL-S, who knows either way, youve definatley helped me make up my mind...Thanks... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The RL-P is more than half the price of one Magnum. They are cheaper than the Magnums, but not by 100%. The Mag was never intended to be a "budget" driver. It was designed and built with a no compromises attitude and that's just what it does. Personally, I think the driver is a bargain. I am biased of course, but that is not without merit. The Mag made it's way into my heart by shoving aside a Brahma, XXX, and W7. All damn fine drivers in their own respect. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It beat all those woofer IUO?? WOW ive owned all of em, except the XXX, and thats impressive, but it should be for the price...I might be wrong, but the 15 RL-p is 279 and the Magnum listed on there website MSRP is 549..so yeah that is half, but i did notice the direct pricing thing on there site so it is probably less, Im just stating what it says on both websites....Either way The two 12's i heard did amaze me just not for the price of them...I would love to know more of your thoughts on these subs though, how u have it setup, what music u listen too(im guessing u have them because of ur bias and all) but if not i would still like to know more...How did they beat out the brahma and others in your oppinion? THanks again man i appreciate all the info. Ive owned 1 12 brahma loved it but still wanted louder, 1 12" IDMAX def wasnt loud enough...! 18" Beyond Audio Inhuman loud enough, just not tight enough..lol, and 1 12" W7, and that just sucked for the MOney IMO...let me know.. John