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I wonder if that actually ended up using the dirt bike one.

WOW Ok, matter of opinion here I guess. He built a set of kick pannels the way you told him to, didn't like them, and pulled them out for some reason. Most likely because of not having enough leg room. So what makes your suggestions any better ?? If your suggestions would have done their job correctly, he wouldn't be back to the drawing board on this project and working on something else ... My kicks did sound good to me, staging was good, midbass was pretty stellar (depending on material), but I had two issues: I wanted legroom back (which isn't M5's fault), I had an annoying sound present on some material on high listening volume, and lastly, I'm notorious for changing setups. The annoying sound was like a "screeching" or "scraping" at high volume, it came from the exodus', and I'm assuming more power would have solved it. I also though of a three way, and distributing the FR among three drivers instead of two could be beneficial, of course if I managed to do it right. When I first built them, the big kicks didn't bug me that much, and after a few months I decided I wanted to make new ones just to make them look nicer. Upon starting the new kicks, I removed the old ones, and decided I wanted that leg room back. So let's not point fingers at anyone, you can just point'm at me.

Hope you haven't bought them yet. Full rangers if used in a 2 way MUST be on axis. Yeah Yeah I know. I'm going to try the exodus' in the doors and tweets on the a-pillar / dash. Decide if I still think more power will help alleviate the annoying sound at high volume. (the amp is like 75w at 4ohm, Re is 6.1 or 6.4 on the exodus, rms is upwards of 125w, I'm ASSuming my amp is running out of headroom and distorting on some material). I can actually disconnect the tweeters, and bridge the amp for more power just to see if that helps with the issue before buying another amp. Listen for a week or so, then decide if I wanted to switch the tweets for midranges / use both, and throw them on the a-pillars.

Are the assassins nice drivers? Yes. Is there anything else that can get louder? Yes. That's in your budget? I don't know. That will fit your vehicle's space restrictions? I don't know. Can one setup with an assassin driver get louder then another setup with an assassin driver? Yes. Can one setup with an assassin sound good while another sounds terrible? Yes. SQ and Loudness are normally relative to one's background. Sure Loudness(sound pressure level, spl) is quantifiable in terms of dB, but for the most part your relying on your idea of loudness in relation to what you've heard, not what I've heard. There are many variables that will positively and negatively effect the driver's output, as well as the quality of sound. You should learn the basic foundations on speakers, enclosure types and different alignments.

AA makes good stuff. I'm guessing you want a subwoofer that sounds good and gets loud? I'm not sure where you are in Canada, but I believe there is a dealer in Cranbrook, BC. (915A Cranbrook St. North, Cranbrook, BC V1C 3S4), the shop is called "Custom Car & Sound." You can also contact AA via http://ascendantaudio.com/contact.php and ask them where the nearest dealer is to you.

No sound clip, cruising around you barely notice it's louder then stock, cabin is quiet. If you get on it, you definitely hear it, but it's still not loud loud.

I'll take it. $15800 2008, 66k miles, manual, 2.5L Turbo. stock pressure. has a magnaflow exhaust, not loud.

Anyone looking for a C30? Tucson.

Looks cool, if there any way to dim them, I think on road trips that might start getting to me, then again it might keep me awake.

Nice$1800 on wire, though Does that include shipping ? Not sure, have yet to speak about it.. but It would be on a roll of course.. 53 cm^2 1/0.. Get 100 people to put down 180 dollars, like a group buy.. I asked for a sample and they said they'd send me a foot sample Good luck finding a hundred people, keeping track of everyone, packaging and shipping out a hundred boxes.

Headroom is everything in audio. ALWAYS going to get better results when your not pushing things to thier limit. What other mid's are you thinking of using? Keeping exodus, but using a 3" - 4" midrange in replacement of the tweeter / possibly going to 3way.

Jared, Im going to play around with some different mounting positions, and midrange drivers, and go from there. But I do think getting some headroom will be the next stop.

I see im not the only person that caught that. Oh fisting.

Okay not really, I snapped a terminal on one of my tweets. Hooked it up, doesn't sound any different.

What!? I can't hear you! Man what a jerk Mark is!! But then i remembered that he was REALLY old and loss of hearing must have set in!!! But hes funny as hell.

Says the guy who lives in Utah, rofl. I think Utah has the highest amount of porn watchers then any other state, according to some statistic I saw the other day. Most popular day for watching was of course, Sunday.

Eh I was able to salvage them!

Yeah im going to around with the kicks more and see how the exodus' sound higher up under the dash. Im glad I got this afternoon and all of tomorrow to play around.

Just before Blues rolled out their new drivers, I bought a pair of Exodus 6.5s and a pair of Shiva 12s ... The 6.5s will work in a sealed as tight as possible door ... Id be willing to bet on it !!! and I'd also be willing to bet that those drivers will work "full range" in that application too ... I'm not saying to blast rap music to them like that, but great SQ listening music, you'd be suprised my friend ... I had some long talks to the owner of Exodus when I came back into competition ... More than likely, leave them full range on the top end and cut them off at 40 to 70 htz on the low end ... depending on what music you listen too ... I may may be able to glass behind the baffle opening and make a enclosure, big maybe, but there is absolutely no way they will work full range. My kick panels yielded .15-.3 ft^3 I'm guessing, and cone break up was apparent when crossed over around 2500hz with a steep slope at higher listening. I wasn't playing electronic, rap, dubstep, etc.

Thanks for insight and pics Lithium, unfortunately with the door closed it does not allow for a driver much bigger then what I already have, perhaps I could squeeze an additional inch in OD. I'll check out the pic and sentra build. Cablguy, that's a possibility, if I cut around the my particle wood door panel, then make a fiberglass trim piece to go over. Only issue with that the exodus' are suited for sealed or ported applications, perhaps I can make some combination work.

Figures.

Owned. Someone should get ahold of the photographer and have him demand he remove it, get it in the media.

I'm going to buy some 3" - 4" midranges in replacement of the peerless tweets and see how it sounds. I'll try them in the stock dash location, and tape up against the a-pillars (at the bottom). Going to make a new baffle for just the exodus, and see if I can raise them a little higher in the kick area. <-If this doesn't work, I'll start some planning on the doors. If the speakers aren't an improvement I can always sell them, not worried about money--yet. I think this is what I'm going to try, tomorrow morning I might think something completely different. Sorry for running everyone around in circles.

I'm not finishing my new kicks, I plan on using the bases I've already made for smaller kicks containing: either midrange solely, or midrange + tweet. I've seen several setups with midranges that covered the spectrum high enough to where tweets weren't needed. I have mine already, so I don't know if I should still use them but cross them pretty high. The tweets sounded fine in the dash, but I don't know how the entire stage will sound if the tweets are in the dash, and midranges are in the kicks. So perhaps I'd use midranges in the kicks, and no tweets. I've thought long and hard, and decided I want to regain my foot space. Goals: regain foot space, improve midbass output, improve staging, and get rid of this "screeching" sound I hear on some content. I believe midbass output & staging can be improved just by a better installation, and I think adding a third driver (midrange) or replacing the tweeter with a midrange, will reduce each speaker's wide bandwidth and hopefully fix the noise I'm hearing on some content. I figured splitting up the frequency spectrum to three drivers instead of two would allow them all to perform better, assuming they are installed in a good fashion (which why I'm posting ) I believe I'm capable of dealing with all the tweaking a 3-way would entail, and I have a better grip on the ms8 now. This leaves me with one last place for the midbass drivers, the doors. I've been thinking how I'd make the doors work, http://caraudiomag.com/articles/how-build-audiophile-car-stereo-system-part-7 I like the idea of fiberglassing over the sheet metal and making a base for the speaker enclosure. Once they had the base, they filled the area with clay, then glassed over that. Then they had the base and a shell with baffle. These both mount to the door. That I can do. The part I'm lost is when they glass over the stock panel so it covers over the speak enclosure, that I can't do since my door panel is thin particle wood wrapped in vinyl / pleather, not plastic. I know it sounds and looks somewhat extreme, but nothing else has crossed my mind.

I like my pictures dark.