Randal Johnson

Awesome Vid Sir !!! Bad Ass system !!!

Awesome Vid Drew !!!

Just out of curiosity ... How long are your gorunds ?? and that particular wire, is that the one between the front battery and the fuse ?? It should not be any longer than the length of the battery ...

Those amps were made to reproduce perfect sound ... Sound Quality machines !!! Class A/B amps back then never was required to draw enough current to need such large cables ... Back then, they cared about what sounded the absolute best ...

2 way active up front or 3 way active up front ??

ok ... I reread this post ... Sorry Sir, I was working on something (I'm actually at work at the moment) ... Amplifiers do not have processors, The only amplify the input signnal ... they have a input for every output (often referred to as a 1-1 ratio) ... hence 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 channel amplifiers ... In my case having multiple amplifiers with no external processor unit, I would need 8 optical outputs from the head unit and 2 optical inputs on each amplifier ... If they did, like home audio recievers with built in amplifiers ... Yes, one Fiber cable input would work for that application ... If car audio amplifiers did have built in processors, can you imagine how much they would cost ??

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With evolving technology ... anything is possible in the future of car audio ... I can see it happening ... just cost more money ...

That "tube" is glass and it will break ... Now ... Getting back to car audio ... If your headunit sends light to a processor, then you only need one transmission line ... the processor decodes the information and sends signal to the amps ... If you have fiber going from processor to amps, you need 2 fibers (left and right) to go to each amp cause there is no processor in the amplifier ... If you go from your headunit straight to your amps ... then you need a left and right fiber going to each amp ... meaning multiple outputs and atleast 2 inputs per amp ... unless you go with the more expensive double wavelength transmitters and recievers ...

Yes Sir ... Not the easiest cable to work with ... Most fiber lines we work with have 12 fibers per buffer ... with anywhere from 6 to 24 buffers around the messenger/strength member ... Have fun splicing back 3,456 fibers in one night when some drunk ass driver decides to swerve and take out a High Line Power transmission pole ... I've been stuck in a splicing trailer for 16 hours straight a few times ...

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Most home theatre recievers decode information from source units ... data ... Then they "Process" the signal to the output stages ... Thats basically why they call them processors, the manipulate the signal for customer preference ... Output signal from a primary "Source" will always be the same, X-box has two output stages ... Fiber optic data transmission and analog RF output ... Left, Right, and video ...

Oh ok, haha, I trust you now, but listened to your opinion anyways So you say you would need transmitters/receivers for all channels, why is this? As I've stated, my mixamp takes the sound into my headphones in 5.1 surround. This is my confusion when you say that we would need a separate receiver for each channel. But your correct, my X-box only has one output. My idea would be, From source, one output to lets just say a 5-channel amp. Thats one cable. Which obviously has many advantages over 3 RCAs would, IMO. Your source unit (X-Box) sends out the data encoded information, then the recieving unit amplifier stage / processor device sends output the way the source unit tells it ...

Thanks for your input CableGuy. I never imagined that it would uber expensive to have Optical recievers since the cable itself can be had for a few dollars or less. At home, I have mixer/amp that I use for gaming that utilizes the optical input from my xbox and I can tell a HUGE difference in sound compared to normal RCAs. This cable is only 6ft long, and this mixer is nothing of SQ oriented to my knowledege. Can be had for less than 150$ and is designed for gaming, not Audiophiles. Call me loco, but for some reason I was thinking there was a difference between "Fiber Cable", and "Optical Cable". Notice images below. Fiber Cable Optical Cable Fiber Optic Cable The only "Technical" difference between these 2 cables is the top one has 2 cables and the bottom has only one ... The top cable has the capability of "2 way" transmission of data ... The bottom is only capable of transmitting "one Way" just like a RCA cable ... Transmitters change bandwidth/data information into light, and power voltage sends the light energy to the other end of the cable ... basic principle to any amplifier. Recievers at the other end of the cable change the light back into bandwidth/data information ...

Trust me, I'm a certified Fiber optical cable splicer technician ... If I could have it in my truck, It would be there ... I think my Kenwood DNX9980HD has a optical output for something, But I sure they do not take the place of RCAs ... You can only have one / two wavelengths per cable ... So that would mean that you would need transmitters / recievers for all channels in the system ... Most things like X-box, PS3, etc only have one, maybe two optical outputs ... Could get expensive !!!

I know that Optical transmitters and recievers are VERY expensive in the broadband electronics world. They are primarily used for LONG distance cable runs. If it was just for cable Telivision, probably would never be a need for fiber optic cable ... But as communication develops, and signals change from analog to advance digital, addition of internet and phnone services, more and more companys are running fiber optic cable to handle these larger data transmitions ... but coax is still the primary in most cable companys. People are learning that fiber to the home is no better than hybrid coax systems ... just more expensive for the companies and the individual customer ... I think some Alpine units used this technology from headunit to processor applications, but never to take the place of RCAs to amplifiers ... And if I remember correctly, those units were / are really expensive and only sought out by true audiophiles ... I think most advance systems like this use CAT5 data cables or something similar to transmit data. I almost positive that this is ALOT cheaper than fiber optic runs and just as effective, possibly better depending on applications ... My guess would be that people would not want to pay the prices it would be to have optical transmitters in the head units and have optical recievers in the amplifiers ... Maybe some VERY high end sponsored vehicles, but not for people wanting good deals on everyday headunits ... I could see a use for it to transmit advance digital /data signals (definately something we may see in the future) but for a no longer than a 25 foot run of analog signal, Chances are you would not see any difference in signal improvement or degregation ... If you look close to my head unit / amplifier installaiton, you will se that I use RG59 coax cable for my RCAs ... They work GREAT !!!

Awesome Looking Amp Sir

Just wait untill you see the plans for my Nursing Home Theatre !!!

Congrats guys !!! Awesome pics !!!

Nice to see those drivers in action ...

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Nice looking amps Sir ...

Haven't seen a 85 Monte in a while ... Is it a SS ?? Welcome to SSA !!!