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Consumer spending is always up around tax time. I always get a nice boost in sales this time of year. This will likely be a double dip recession so don't get too comfortable. I spent some money with Sundown this month and this heartfelt thank you makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

I love these pissing matches. They really get my juices flowing.

I didn't see this done here before, if it was forgive me. The Xcon in the door thread got me all nostalgic. What was your first system and what was it in? My first system was in an 88 Sunbird convertible, 1 Cerwin Vega XL-12 powered by an Earthquake 250x ( think that's what it was called at least) later I added some Blaupunkt 6x9's powered by an Alpine 3522. I upgraded to a pair of punch XLC's shortly thereafter and eventually some Audiobahn Alum 10's before I junked the car because a large portion of the top tore off and it had no heat in January in Minnesota. I remember driving around for hours at a time going no where at all and in a huge hurry to get there. I miss 95 cents/gallon gas.

Thanks for the suggestions. I suppose I'll keep an eye on db-r for some refurbed Sundowns.

I'm looking for a 2000 watt amp to run my Sundown Z15's. Since only d2's were left I'll be running a 2 ohm load. I'm looking to spend under $500 and so far the only amp I'm finding to fit what I'm looking for is the Alpine MRP-2000. I've considered spending a little more and getting a 1 ohm stable amp but run it at 2 ohm in case I decide to upgrade, although at this point I really don't intend to since I have other hobbies that I'd rather waste my money on. Any other suggestions/feedback on Alpine amps? I'm not up to speed with Alpine since the only thing I own from Alpine is an early 90's model. Also, any other brands I should be looking into? Thanks for looking.

The price on the Audiopipe has piqued my intrigue while still maintaining some upgrade-ability.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if each amp sees 1 ohm wouldn't that be a nominal .5 ohm load? At least I believe that's the way it was explained to me.

I've had trouble finding info on Audiopipe. I'm always a little leery of older amps and they're not as readily available all the time.

If you ever end up in Ohio, I've "heard" you can walk into the American Bass shop and get real real good deals as long as you pay cash. Don't know if it's true though.

oh hi there.

I've always crimped it snug with a vice grips and soldered it from there. I have no doubt soldering without crimping shouldn't be a problem but I figure better safe than sorry.

Yup, as long as you order 500 amps.

Wasn't really confused, but yeah I understand. Ordered something from yall today, I am supportive of SSA. Good. Glad you don't hold a grudge I can guarantee I don't. I am an easy person to figure out on the forums and unless drunk, consistent. Given your posts on the forum I find it hard to believe we hail from the same sunny state.

With that small of a budget you should consider a little less power.

Good job on the wire, I hate tearing apart the interior to run wires. It's such a bitch. Also, on the alternator, call around to some auto electric shops and see what it costs to rewind your alternator.

This applies with anything you want to buy worth any value. You seek what other people say, would you buy car worth 30 grand that will only last 100,000 miles and will need constant maintenance? or would you buy a quality car that could last double that with minimal upkeep? RD is very very shady. Personally customer service for me is 90% of the appeal to me 10% of the product. If something breaks (and its inevitable) I want to be able to have a quick response and be able to get things repaired in a timely manner. He wasn't speaking on customer service, he was speaking on performance. Based on the mix and match parts for some of the drivers, entire amp model failure, recalled amps, and drastically over ratted amp model and high failure rate of another, I think that is more then enough to speak on their product performance. I don't know anything about RD besides what I've read in this and a few other threads so I'm sure you're right. I'm not claiming to know much about the subject. wolf said that RD was a great product, people disagreed and went on to cite customer service problems and "shady" dealings to support their argument. If you're arguing about a product's performance give reasons to persuade someone to agree with you. I really have no opinion one way or the other, but this type of arguing is pretty prevalent on car audio forums. Two or more people will be arguing about something but it's as if they're not reading each other's posts and replying with the same rhetoric over and over. A lot more can be learned from a substantive argument.

This applies with anything you want to buy worth any value. You seek what other people say, would you buy car worth 30 grand that will only last 100,000 miles and will need constant maintenance? or would you buy a quality car that could last double that with minimal upkeep? RD is very very shady. Personally customer service for me is 90% of the appeal to me 10% of the product. If something breaks (and its inevitable) I want to be able to have a quick response and be able to get things repaired in a timely manner. He wasn't speaking on customer service, he was speaking on performance.

Impressive looking subs, impressive numbers, interesting box. If this was facebook I'd like this thread.

I kind of have to agree with wolf, it looks as though he's kind of playing devil's advocate. A lot of a company's reputation in this hobby seems to be, in essence, propped up by supporters who haven't used their product. Not saying any company is good or bad. Not saying it doesn't seem to be common knowledge that RD isn't a company to deal with because of previous dealings but a lot of what I've read at least doesn't seem to about the product itself. With the previous paragraph being completely objective I'll say that personally I would never use RD in my own vehicle based on what I've read, doesn't matter to me if they make the best equipment in the universe, based on what I've read I just wouldn't give them any business.

Nice fab work.

Looks great, just to be safe I'd cover the wire under the car with some POR-15 or the like.

Looks great but please buff that truck.

I can definitely wait. I used the truck to move some trannies and now theres tranny fluid all over the back of the truck, which sucks because up until now the interior was practically brand new looking. Oh well. I really wish I had pics of the last and first box I built. It was a train wreck. I was in highschool and was in a rush to get everything together. Now I'm a little more mature and can slow it down and do it right. Absolutely nothing is set in stone but I'm thinking somewhere around 7cubes around 30-35hz. That'll be another discussion when I get there though. I still have to measure the back of the truck and decide whether or not I can keep my 3rd row seat and still have a decent amount of room for hauling stuff in the back.

Sorry, I hate to be that guy making all the stupid threads asking a bunch of stupid questions and in this case one that can't really be answered and has already been discussed to death. BUT... After all my reading I'm still not completely sure what to do. The vehicle I'm using is a Suburban so space really isn't an issue. Although I'd like to keep some usable space in the back. I probably want to stay under 8cuft unless going larger would produce substantial gains. I'd like to run no more than 3000watts rms. There's virtually no car audio "scene" where I live so this is really only for my listening pleasure, I'm not interested in competing since there's maybe a couple comps per year within 100 miles of me, I want it really loud if I feel the need but I listen to a very wide variety of music so I'd like some SQ as well. I hope that's enough criteria to help me. I have no preference for speaker size, but I'm sure the more cone area the better. As far as price I'd like to spend as little as possible obviously, but it's pretty easy to talk me into spending more than I want. But realistically I'd like to keep it under $600 or so for sub(s). I was looking at Fi's because there's a decent amount of them used for sale at pretty decent prices. But I don't really know which line would be for me. I know it's a pretty broad question I'm asking. Sorry if you had to read all that. Thanks.

Well I just bit the bullet and ordered two Sundown Z15's. Considering I've gone without bass almost all of the last 7 years it won't take much to impress me and the price was right.