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Thanks No. It's ugly. haha i'm sure its not thaaat bad

You coming right?

I think you may underestimate the differences in your hearing sensitivity at various frequencies. 110db @ 1khz is a lot different than 110db @ 50hz. Your hear is much more sensitive to sounds in the midrange than it is to subbass, so you will experience more "loudness" in the midrange with less SPL compared to subbass. It will only take a true HLCD a watt or two to reach 110db in the midrange. I doubt you could stand to listen to a consistent 120db in the midrange for any appreciable period of time, which for a 105db sensitivity horn would only take around 30w to achieve. You would probably reach your threshold of pain from the output of the horns before you would reach it from the output of your subs. The Sundown would be more than sufficient. You have me worried though.. you say 1 watt is enough for normal listening but i'll be using the 125.2 at 8ohms giving them 50-70 watts daily, I don't want to learn sign language anytime soon. I'm confused on what i should do now.. Then your ONLY choice is to turn EVERYTHING down. Again, there is a gain knob on your amp and should be on ANY processor that can handle active. Having a 1000w amp on the tweeters would then be fine, you'd just give the amp less voltage than you do your other channels. Thought so.

I'm likin' the build so far . Picture of the car?

I think you may underestimate the differences in your hearing sensitivity at various frequencies. 110db @ 1khz is a lot different than 110db @ 50hz. Your hear is much more sensitive to sounds in the midrange than it is to subbass, so you will experience more "loudness" in the midrange with less SPL compared to subbass. It will only take a true HLCD a watt or two to reach 110db in the midrange. I doubt you could stand to listen to a consistent 120db in the midrange for any appreciable period of time, which for a 105db sensitivity horn would only take around 30w to achieve. You would probably reach your threshold of pain from the output of the horns before you would reach it from the output of your subs. The Sundown would be more than sufficient. You have me worried though.. you say 1 watt is enough for normal listening but i'll be using the 125.2 at 8ohms giving them 50-70 watts daily, I don't want to learn sign language anytime soon. I'm confused on what i should do now..

Right now for my SAZ-3500Ds that are strapped i'm grounded to my frame but it's a pretty long wire and i don't want it that long. I cannot make the ground wire short and STILL ground to the frame, just can't. So this leaves me with grounding to the body, which i've only done with multi-channel amps.. no big mono blocks. I have (1) Yellow Top under the hood, (4) XS Power D3100s in the bed, (1) 320 amp Alternator from DC Power, Big 3 all inside a 1986 S-15 My concern is that grounding to the body will not be efficient enough for my SAZ-3500Ds. What is your input?

Thanks for the input guys, today i'm finishing up my doors and i'll see how they AA Carbons perform along with my sub bass. I'm going to change the settings on the head unit in the AAs favor also. Jay-Cee i got you PM, i'm going to finish my install up and then get back with you.

You down to come help? ---- Thanks for the tip ulrisa

This is what I do as well, it's the only surefire way to know that you are getting the least resistance. OP I noticed you did 2 1/0 runs on the positive, but did you do two 1/0 chassis grounds when you did the big 3? The ground is just as important as the positive. Tomorrow i'm going to go through everything and double up where its not. I'm prepping for the up coming show. Wouldn't that be the same as grounding straight to the frame though or is grounding to the batt better? It is, but my battery is closer than my frame Gotcha, in my bed where my 4 XS batts are i'm only using 1 run of 0awg wire to connect each batt. Like so; I'm thinking about doubling up on it, sound like a good idea to you guys?

This is what I do as well, it's the only surefire way to know that you are getting the least resistance. OP I noticed you did 2 1/0 runs on the positive, but did you do two 1/0 chassis grounds when you did the big 3? The ground is just as important as the positive. Tomorrow i'm going to go through everything and double up where its not. I'm prepping for the up coming show. Wouldn't that be the same as grounding straight to the frame though or is grounding to the batt better?

I have hundreds of feet of 0 gauge stinger wire brand new.. i'm just lazy man. Are you talking about runnin' a neg from the batt under the hood to the neg on the batt in the back? If so, I have a few runs.

afraid not, we all have to buy our own, even Will did. ! lol Jason told me to tell you he's going to be hittin' you up about some serious business

Ground wire is about 4 feet FYI. I'm looking to make my voltage more stable.

a second, or a month? one more day

So if i hold it down for TEAM SSA at the show on the 13th and we bring home some trophies/medals i get a free one right?!

Better the shorter, no? Also would like some input on grounding to frame vs body search function didn't really help.

Hell yah, this should be fun. You buying the "wings" after, D? Most likely hahah i'm bringin' my girl with me this time. Tomorrow finishing up my doors.. hopefully lol. I forgot to tell you this on the phone, Jason got a new phone for his birthday that just passed.

Ohhhhhh boy, TEAM SSA in the hoouusseeee!

The drivers are likely 8ohm.....so a 125w @ 4ohm amp would only put about 60w to the horns at full tilt. Still way more than you'll need, but no reason not to use the amp otherwise. It will work fine. Just for reference, I had 50wpc @ 8ohm on my CD2's, the gain turned all the way down and still had to set the level on the processor to -12 (the lowest it would go without completely muting that channel) in order to keep the output in check......just to give you an idea of how little power you need to use with a true HLCD. Really at normal listening levels, you'll use less than 1w of power. At full balls to the wall....horns are capable of enough output to literally deafen you while still being within their rated thermal power handling (which is why I've never understood why HLCD haven't caught on with the SPL crowd, instead of those stupid bullet tweeters). That is intense that they have that much output on such little power! Don't you think it will be different though with my sub bass in the mix? It drowns out a lot, more then most would imagine. I completely forgot about the possibility of horns being 8ohms lol oops. So, i could use a Sundown 125.2 and still be okay, right?

You could find a used 100.2 But.. that would still be giving them 75 watts a piece, no? Any input on my response about keeping gain low on 125.2

What kind of power should I give them if not 75+? I'd like to run all Sundown amps if I could, how do you think it'd be with using the 2.125 and keep the gain low? Thanks for the information on the different models and why the v3 is better, would it be worth it to get the pros if not the V3s.. Is there a big step up in performance between the two? How do you like your CD2s? Also do you know some good cross over points for the CD1ev3? I know it varys instal to instal, but some starting points would be great

Nope, wrong again. Read the label, find the specs and determine the amount they limit the frequencies you are plopping into your ear. Basically they do jack. You are murdering your future to hear.

Yeah haha.. when looking at so many options, any of them start to look good lol Thanks for clearing that up for me, i'm looking into the HLCD mini CD1E right now. I read they take 75 watts, but i'm thinking about putting 125 watts to them. Do you think it'd be too much? I don't, but i don't know much about them. What kind of horns do you have?

Then you know nothing about the human hearing mechanisms. You will NOT have your hearing for so long. You'll be the 30 year old that says what everywhere. I drive around with the best ear plugs money can buy.. so I WILL have earing for a very long time. The bullet tweeters have caught on with the SPL crowd very strongly, most forums i went on to read up about my problem suggested them.. one guy had 48 Super Tweeter.. another had 18 bullet tweeters. I have been considering a set of HLCD ever since i bought my SMDs... but, mounting them under my dash has me thinking they won't sound good.. I'm lookin' around for installs with them now.